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Re: Should Ron Paul Accept Money From "White Supremacists" ??

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I would have a hard time taking a site called White Civil Rights seriously. As a white male I have had no trouble with my civil rights in relation to other races. Those damn Jews bashing that good man David Duke. How sad.
You might want to re-read your first sentence then delete it. Unless you really don't want white people to have "civil rights". Are you familiar with Affirmative Action Programs, for just one example ??
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Re: Should Ron Paul Accept Money From "White Supremacists" ??

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I'm concerned about your irrational argument. I'm not sure it's mentally healthy.
Thanks Dr. Slon.
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Re: Should Ron Paul Accept Money From "White Supremacists" ??

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You might want to re-read your first sentence then delete it. Unless you really don't want white people to have "civil rights". Are you familiar with Affirmative Action Programs, for just one example ??
I'm pretty sure civil rights have been denied to just about everybody more than white people. Affirmative Action didn't keep me out of college. I am concerned with the civil liberties of all Americans in general and if I did see some serious civil rights infringements for white people I would be concerned although I don't really.
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Re: Should Ron Paul Accept Money From "White Supremacists" ??

I think everyone should have Equality--affirmative action might have been good in the 50s but now a days everyone needs equality
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I think everyone should have Equality--affirmative action might have been good in the 50s but now a days everyone needs equality
I'm not trying to be a champion of affirmative action but to suggest it has had a impact on white civil rights on a scale near what African Americans and Native Americans have suffered is ridiculous.
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Re: Should Ron Paul Accept Money From "White Supremacists" ??

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Refusing or accepting the money doesn't ban anyone from voting. What the hell are you talking about?
Sloan, I think maybe you didn't digest all that I said. You're right of course, that refusing the money won't ban anyone from voting, but it will prevent them from fully participating in the election process equally. How can I support Ron Paul equally to say John Blow whose money is accepted by Rudy Giuliani, if Ron Paul doesn't accept my money ??

And I'm not just talking about me, but hundreds of thousands of members and supporters of Don Black's organization, and countless other thousands who belong to similar groups.
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I'm not trying to be a champion of affirmative action but to suggest it has had a impact on white civil rights on a scale near what African Americans and Native Americans have suffered is ridiculous.
Who said it did ?? You're putting words in my mouth again. Besides, you're changing the subject of the thread. The subject that you've already stated 2 or 3 times now you're not concerned with. Remember ??
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Who said it did ?? You're putting words in my mouth again. Besides, you're changing the subject of the thread. The subject that you've already stated 2 or 3 times now you're not concerned with. Remember ??
The title of the link implies it.
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Re: Should Ron Paul Accept Money From "White Supremacists" ??

Hell, why not...his main donations come from 911 Tr00thers. If he accepts and speaks at the Tr00ther and K0nspiracy rallies, then he may as well open the doors to any and all donations.
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Hell, why not...his main donations come from 911 Tr00thers. If he accepts and speaks at the Tr00ther and K0nspiracy rallies, then he may as well open the doors to any and all donations.
people who want the WHOLE story of 911 told contribute to Obama too and other candidates so why just single out Ron Paul?

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Hell, why not...his main donations come from 911 Tr00thers. If he accepts and speaks at the Tr00ther and K0nspiracy rallies, then he may as well open the doors to any and all donations.
Well, at least we agree on something, Meridious.

May I ask what, in particular, you find so offensive about Ron Paul ??
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Re: Should Ron Paul Accept Money From "White Supremacists" ??

But, for the record, I believe the feds are hiding a hell of alot of information about 9-11. And believe me, when Ron Paul is elected, there'll be no more government secrets about the deaths of 3,000 Americans on 9-11. And he's the only one who'll tell us.
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when Ron Paul is elected


That part of your statement is fucking hysterical...
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Re: Should Ron Paul Accept Money From "White Supremacists" ??

It seems very unwise to knowingly take money from any group that society generally considers an across-the-spectrum unpalatable hate group. Paul may very well lose more votes than gained by such acts and certainly dish himself a bad self-inflicted wound that his competition will pour heaps of salt into at every opportunity.


Try as any candidate might to claim that taking money from someone or something does not automatically mean endorsement of the views of the donors, many voters will draw a reasonable inference that the candidate does endorse such views to some measureable if not full extent because they are associating with and taking money from the person or group at issue rather than distancing themselves from them. Moreover, it is reasonable for voters to draw an inference that those financially backing a candidate have a greater chance of having and/or achieving personal influence with that candidate--"whoever pays the piper calls the tune." If a politician wants to avoid these inferences being drawn as they relate to any particular financial backer, then they should not accept money from them.

Also, it can certainly lead to embarassments down the road:





Some direct associations and cash assistance offers are just better off to decline. If Paul gets the supremacists' votes because they like his platform more than the rest, that is how voting decisions are made for every citizen and it's every voters' prerogative to vote for whom they want.
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Re: Should Ron Paul Accept Money From "White Supremacists" ??

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I'm not trying to be a champion of affirmative action but to suggest it has had a impact on white civil rights on a scale near what African Americans and Native Americans have suffered is ridiculous.
Well of course, that's what the main stream media has put in your head all your life. You really oughta have the desire to learn the white man's side of it all. That is assuming you are a white man. Are ya ??

The "ridiculous" ones are usually those who don't know both sides of issues, but know only one. Think about it. Then spend at least a little time at White Civil Rights. Will ya. Otherwise, you admit you have a closed mind.
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