Should Ron Paul Accept Money From "White Supremacists" ?? - Page 5 - U.S. Politics Online: A Political Discussion Forum

Frank · #61 (**permalink**) 11-19-2007

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Originally Posted by Brett Golden

This topic has been big in the news recently, caused by the uproar over a $500.00 donation to the Paul campaign, by Don Black, webmaster of Stormfront - Discussion Board for Activists, a "white supremacist" discussion forum with over 100,000 members, worldwide.

Yet no one complains when Democrat or the Republican candidates receive donations from open supporters of the racist Apartheid state of Israel. Funny how THAT does not cause an uproar!

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This prompted Abe Foxman, head of the Jewish Anti-Defamation League (ADL) to issue a demand that Ron Paul refuse the $500.00 donation. To date, Paul has refused to.

Abraham Foxman is a hypocrite who supports diversity for gentiles but will turn around and complain about Jews intermarrying. How this obvious two-faced double-standard holding hypocrite still has a shred of credibility in America is beyond me...

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I believe Dr Paul should tell the ADL to mind their business, and he should accept the money.

I am with you; the ADL has no credibility complaining about 'hate' and 'racism' when they support a Jewish Apartheid state.

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Black's supporters have raised hundreds of thousands of dollars for Paul's campaign, in my calculation. Many other similar websites/forums are also working hard to promote, and raise funds for, Ron Paul's campaign.

Good for them!

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Just wondering where you folks stand on this controversial issue.

There is nothing controversial about this save the hypocrisy and Chutzpah of the ADL. Of course the stench of political correctness in this matter is a controversy of sorts as well.

Brett Golden · #62 (**permalink**) 11-19-2007

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Originally Posted by O'Sullivan Bere

It seems very unwise to knowingly take money from any group that society generally considers an across-the-spectrum unpalatable hate group. Paul may very well lose more votes than gained by such acts and certainly dish himself a bad self-inflicted wound that his competition will pour heaps of salt into at every opportunity.

Try as any candidate might to claim that taking money from someone or something does not automatically mean endorsement of the views of the donors, many voters will draw a reasonable inference that the candidate does endorse such views to some measureable if not full extent because they are associating with and taking money from the person or group at issue rather than distancing themselves from them. Moreover, it is reasonable for voters to draw an inference that those financially backing a candidate have a greater chance of having and/or achieving personal influence with that candidate--"whoever pays the piper calls the tune." If a politician wants to avoid these inferences being drawn as they relate to any particular financial backer, then they should not accept money from them.

Also, it can certainly lead to embarassments down the road:

Some direct associations and cash assistance offers are just better off to decline. If Paul gets the supremacists' votes because they like his platform more than the rest, that is how voting decisions are made for every citizen and it's every voters' prerogative to vote for whom they want.

A very politically astute conclusion, O.B. But Ron Paul is far more a patriot, than your run of the mill "astute" politician. Dr Paul actually believes in protecting the rights of all people, regardless of their thoughts and beliefs, not just those approved of by the controlled MSM thought-controllers, or those the jewish Anti-Defamation-League places their stamp of approval on.

And don't worry about the MSM doing harm to Dr Paul's campaign with this so-called "white supremacy" issue. Dr Paul's supporters love him because he's honest, and because he believes in following the rules set forth in the US Constitution, unlike "Israel's amen corner" and "Israeli occupied territory".

timj219 · #63 (**permalink**) 11-19-2007

There is no reason at all ron paul shouldn't take this money. If he was a serious candidate he would have to worry about publicly associating with racist assholes but that obviously doesn't apply here.

Non Sequitur · #64 (**permalink**) 11-19-2007

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Originally Posted by Brett Golden

Just wondering where you folks stand on this controversial issue.

Too little money to get too worked up over. It's just $500, it's not like he is funding Paul's entire run for president.

Personally i wouldn't accept the money. Hate messages like that are wrong and Paul isn't gaining points in my book for accepting the money justs to protect rights, but as i said not a big deal overall.

Brett Golden · #65 (**permalink**) 11-19-2007

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Originally Posted by Frank

Yet no one complains when Democrat or the Republican candidates receive donations from open supporters of the racist Apartheid state of Israel. Funny how THAT does not cause an uproar!

Abraham Foxman is a hypocrite who supports diversity for gentiles but will turn around and complain about Jews intermarrying. How this obvious two-faced double-standard holding hypocrite still has a shred of credibility in America is beyond me...

I am with you; the ADL has no credibility complaining about 'hate' and 'racism' when they support a Jewish Apartheid state.

Good for them!

There is nothing controversial about this save the hypocrisy and Chutzpah of the ADL. Of course the stench of political correctness in this matter is a controversy of sorts as well.

You're a man of deep insights, Frank. And a patriot too, I gather.

Thanks to the ADL, AIPAC and their neocon stooges who do their bidding, America is broke and in debt 9 trillion dollars. And every cent being spent to continue this war against the enemies of Israel, is borrowed from RED CHINA, Japan, Saudi-Arabia (and you won't believe this last one). . . India.

Not to even mention the many hundreds of thousands of innocent people our government has murdered in the middle east, including the 500,000 innocent Iraqi children who died due to American sanctions against Iraq of food and medicines (1990-200).

Ron Paul is the only candidate who says: "Get out of Iraq now!!" All the rest are part of "Israel's amen corner".

mkultra · #66 (**permalink**) 11-19-2007

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Originally Posted by Brett Golden

Well of course, that's what the main stream media has put in your head all your life. You really oughta have the desire to learn the white man's side of it all. That is assuming you are a white man. Are ya ??

The "ridiculous" ones are usually those who don't know both sides of issues, but know only one. Think about it. Then spend at least a little time at White Civil Rights. Will ya. Otherwise, you admit you have a closed mind.

I clicked the link and it was talking about Hillarys body count but what about all the millions the Bush crime syndicate murdered all these years?

Brett Golden · #67 (**permalink**) 11-19-2007

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Originally Posted by Non Sequitur

Too little money to get too worked up over. It's just $500, it's not like he is funding Paul's entire run for president.

Personally i wouldn't accept the money. Hate messages like that are wrong and Paul isn't gaining points in my book for accepting the money justs to protect rights, but as i said not a big deal overall.

Frankly, I probably wouldn't take the money either, N.S. But you and I lack the deep, deep commitment to the US Constitution, sense of fairness, equal rights for all, and the guts and principles to defend them all, no matter the political consequences among the politically-correct lemmings or by the speech-control maniacs who run the MSM.

mkultra · #68 (**permalink**) 11-19-2007

I like the story on Pollsters asking Ron Paul supporters sexual questions tho LOL

Brett Golden · #69 (**permalink**) 11-19-2007

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Originally Posted by mkultra

I clicked the link and it was talking about Hillarys body count but what about all the millions the Bush crime syndicate murdered all these years?

Keep on reading, mkultra. You'll find it all there. Or else at Duke other's site: The Official Website of Representative David Duke, PhD.

David Duke provides news, commentary, insights and truths you'll never find anywhere in the main stream media - and from a white perspective, a perspective that has been forbidden you all your life. David will open your mind like a Spring tulip, if you'll give him a chance.

mkultra · #70 (**permalink**) 11-19-2007

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Originally Posted by Brett Golden

Keep on reading, mkultra. You'll find it all there. Or else at Duke other's site: The Official Website of Representative David Duke, PhD.

David Duke provides news, commentary, insights and truths you'll never find anywhere in the main stream media - and from a white perspective, a perspective that has been forbidden you all your life. David will open your mind like a Spring tulip, if you'll give him a chance.

thanks Ill read it with an open mind and let you know what I think

Frank · #71 (**permalink**) 11-19-2007

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Originally Posted by Brett Golden

Ron Paul is the only candidate who says: "Get out of Iraq now!!" All the rest are part of "Israel's amen corner".

I would be more concerned about the candidate who accepts money from people who want to see legions of Iranians butchered not to mention American troops in a new war of aggression. These are candidates we should be questioning.

It amazes me how a small donation from a white nationalist warrants such controversy while candidates who accept massively large sums of money from those who want to see Iranian blood spilled are given a free pass. When was the last time someone from the American mainstream complained about candidates receiving support from warmongering supporters of the Apartheid state of Israel? Seriously folks...

partofme · #72 (**permalink**) 11-19-2007

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Originally Posted by Brett Golden

But, for the record, I believe the feds are hiding a hell of alot of information about 9-11. And believe me, when Ron Paul is elected, there'll be no more government secrets about the deaths of 3,000 Americans on 9-11. And he's the only one who'll tell us.

I'm completely serious about betting money against Ron Paul winning. How much are you willing to put up?

mkultra · #73 (**permalink**) 11-19-2007

attacking Iran while our troops are still dying in Iraqmire for Bush/Cheneys oil greed would be national suicide

Brett Golden · #74 (**permalink**) 11-19-2007

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Originally Posted by Non Sequitur

Too little money to get too worked up over. It's just $500, it's not like he is funding Paul's entire run for president.

Personally i wouldn't accept the money. Hate messages like that are wrong and Paul isn't gaining points in my book for accepting the money justs to protect rights, but as i said not a big deal overall.

You wanna hear "hate messages"? Google your signature: "Martin Luther jews". Your hero, Martin Luther, was one of the biggest racist and anti-semites in all of recorded history. You're a bit of a contradiction, wouldn't you say ??

partofme · #75 (**permalink**) 11-19-2007

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Originally Posted by Brett Golden

Well of course, that's what the main stream media has put in your head all your life. You really oughta have the desire to learn the white man's side of it all. That is assuming you are a white man. Are ya ??

The "ridiculous" ones are usually those who don't know both sides of issues, but know only one. Think about it. Then spend at least a little time at White Civil Rights. Will ya. Otherwise, you admit you have a closed mind.

So the media has me under it's control. Whenever I hear the secret word I go into a crazy trance "must kill the queen".

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