Should Ron Paul Accept Money From "White Supremacists" ?? - Page 7 - U.S. Politics Online: A Political Discussion Forum

lostinacause · #91 (**permalink**) 11-19-2007

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Originally Posted by partofme

Usually candidates like him, Gravel, and Kucinich don't worry so much about this sort of thing because they really have nothing to lose. That does free them up to say whatever pops into their heads which at least keeps them entertaining although not viable.

The "if" was a big if. It is clear that his main object is something different.

I agree with you that they make politics interesting and entertaining. It is refreshing to see what politicians stand for.

partofme · #92 (**permalink**) 11-19-2007

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Originally Posted by lostinacause

The "if" was a big if. It is clear that his main object is something different.

I agree with you that they make politics interesting and entertaining. It is refreshing to see what politicians stand for.

What if? I didn't use the word if in that post. ???

mkultra · #93 (**permalink**) 11-19-2007

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Originally Posted by Brett Golden

But Dr Paul's a patriot, mkultra. He believes honor and principle outweighs political "strategy". And that's why so many patriotic Americans support him.

He's not like the bought and paid for whores in Washington, who'd sell their mother's into slavery for an endoresment by the NAACP and/or the American Jewish Congress or La Raza (which means: The Race), the largest Hispanic "civil rights" group in the country.

so then accorden to the "Princple" strategy it would be wise for him to keep the money

Brett Golden · #94 (**permalink**) 11-19-2007

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Originally Posted by lostinacause

The "if" was a big if. It is clear that his main object is something different.

I agree with you that they make politics interesting and entertaining. It is refreshing to see what politicians stand for.

In that case, lostinacause, you might consider checking out Ron Paul. Lots of his videos there, too. Just click on Ron Paul 2008 — Hope for America. He'll blow your mind with his honesty, and patroitism.

mkultra · #95 (**permalink**) 11-19-2007

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I'll tell you why, mkkultra. It's because those who control our government and those who control the national media, hate us because we are white, and they forbid us from having White leaders and White organizations that'll work for the interests of our white people.

And it's been this way for way over half a century.

The media and government demonizes and hates every single White civil rights leader and group in our country, and they have for the past 50 years.

Have you ever heard anything good about any white civil rights group or leader on TV, or by any politician, in your entire life ?? See what I mean ?? The government and media hates them all, and therefore they also hate all white people. Simple logic.

I never saw things in these terms before but its pretty hard to refute if you look at the facts objectively--it seems that white people have less speech rights and are increasingly demonized

Brett Golden · #96 (**permalink**) 11-19-2007

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Brett Golden · #97 (**permalink**) 11-19-2007

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I never saw things in these terms before but its pretty hard to refute if you look at the facts objectively--it seems that white people have less speech rights and are increasingly demonized

You really do have an honest and open mind, mkultra. I admire AND respect that.

Btw, there's an excellent discussion forum where lots of white folks go to discuss things that interest them at: Stormfront - Discussion Board for Activists. You can listen to what awakened white people are saying and doing these days. They've even got white talk radio, and lots and lots of white pride videos, and music too. It'll blow your young mind.

(I'm outa here. Gotta get off this computer before my wife hits me with something. See yaw'll tomorrow)

Non Sequitur · #98 (**permalink**) 11-19-2007

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You wanna hear "hate messages"? Google your signature: "Martin Luther jews". Your hero, Martin Luther, was one of the biggest racist and anti-semites in all of recorded history. You're a bit of a contradiction, wouldn't you say ??

The White supremacist that gave the money has not written any brilliant theology or stood in front of a church council to defend his work and said a inspiring quote. Luther has done both which makes him just a little bit different from the guy in the article.

Also the great advantage about Luther is that he is dead and I can officially apologize for his hateful works (On the Jews and their lies is the actual book, I've read parts of it) and denounce those works, while still staying to the rest of his theology.

so here I stand, I can do no other, God help me

lostinacause · #99 (**permalink**) 11-19-2007

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Originally Posted by partofme

What if? I didn't use the word if in that post. ???

My "if".

lostinacause · #**100** (**permalink**) 11-19-2007

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Originally Posted by Brett Golden

In that case, lostinacause, you might consider checking out Ron Paul. Lots of his videos there, too. Just click on Ron Paul 2008 — Hope for America. He'll blow your mind with his honesty, and patroitism.

I know enough about monetary theory to know that Ron Paul would never get my vote even if I could vote for him. In fact most of the fringe candidates have substandard economic policies.

mkultra · #**101** (**permalink**) 11-19-2007

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Originally Posted by Brett Golden

You really do have an honest and open mind, mkultra. I admire AND respect that.

Btw, there's an excellent discussion forum where lots of white folks go to discuss things that interest them at: Stormfront - Discussion Board for Activists. You can listen to what awakened white people are saying and doing these days. They've even got white talk radio, and lots and lots of white pride videos, and music too. It'll blow your young mind.

(I'm outa here. Gotta get off this computer before my wife hits me with something. See yaw'll tomorrow)

thanks Brett--Ill check it now

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The Greek · #**102** (**permalink**) 11-19-2007

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But if Paul returns the money, he'll be violating his own stated principles of freedom for all, special rights for none, thus greatly disappoint many of his local supporters, who strongly believe in the US Constitution.

To deny financial contributions from any person, in effect, disinfranchises them, and prevents their equal participation in the election process.

I mean, if it's proper to refuse money from one group, then it should also be proper to refuse money from any group. Where will it end ??

It can also be argued that if Paul keeps the money, he is violating his stated principals of freedom for all if the contributing group advocates special rights for one ethnicity over others. If, in his mind, this organization does advocate special rights, then Paul should refuse their sponsorship to remain consistent with his message.

Of course, this same litmus test, however, should also be placed on all of his other supporters as well

Additionally, I see no constitutional issue relative to voting rights effected by Paul's decision to accept money or not from any group or person

Si modo · #**103** (**permalink**) 11-19-2007

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so how is it Ron Pauls fault that these people want to contribute to him? Im not taking a position on whether he should keep or return the money but I dont like the whole guilt by association mentality that people are somehow to blame if some controversial group supports them

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I agree he should give the money back or it appears like hes endorsing them

Flip-flop much?

Slon · #**104** (**permalink**) 11-19-2007

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Sloan, I think maybe you didn't digest all that I said. You're right of course, that refusing the money won't ban anyone from voting, but it will prevent them from fully participating in the election process equally. How can I support Ron Paul equally to say John Blow whose money is accepted by Rudy Giuliani, if Ron Paul doesn't accept my money ??

You vote for him. Money doesn't get your candidates extra votes, and his taking of your money does not equate to his use of that money for effective ad campaigns, which further do not equate to winning anything except maybe from irrational idiots, and that shouldn't be the case anyway.

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And I'm not just talking about me, but hundreds of thousands of members and supporters of Don Black's organization, and countless other thousands who belong to similar groups.