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Re: Should Ron Paul Accept Money From "White Supremacists" ??

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For God's sake Slon - how the hell am I going to know what political persuasion an ebay buyer/waiter is?
Slon will now insist that you present your rationale for accepting a bid from someone on eBay without knowing their political persuasion...

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Re: Should Ron Paul Accept Money From "White Supremacists" ??

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Slon will now insist that you present your rationale for accepting a bid from someone on eBay without knowing their political persuasion...

LOL
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Re: Should Ron Paul Accept Money From "White Supremacists" ??

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For God's sake Slon - how the hell am I going to know what political persuasion an ebay buyer/waiter is?

This is about someone taking a political donation from a political lobby with unpleasant political views - not about accepting a tip from a stranger.
Why are you so rough on politicians? Why are you applying your standards to them, but not to yourself? Is your argument the idea that accepting money from someone means you follow their ideas?
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I wouldn't (hypothetically) take a tip from Hitler or Stalin (assuming I knew who they were) in fact, if I did know who they were, they would be barred from the restaurant. Would you take a tip from Hitler?

Get a grip.
If I did, it would not make me follow all of Hitler's policies and ideas, which is apparently the standard you want to apply to politicians. Again, why the double standard?
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Re: Should Ron Paul Accept Money From "White Supremacists" ??

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Why are you so rough on politicians? Why are you applying your standards to them, but not to yourself? Is your argument the idea that accepting money from someone means you follow their ideas?

If I did, it would not make me follow all of Hitler's policies and ideas, which is apparently the standard you want to apply to politicians. Again, why the double standard?
It means that they follow yours. Where am I not applying my standards to myself?????

Why are you deliberately not looking at the political context that I put this argument in? Why do you equate an ebay sale to a political donation?

You might take money from Hitler as a gift or donation - I wouldn't

'nuff said.
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Re: Should Ron Paul Accept Money From "White Supremacists" ??

Unfortunately, in politics, appearance is everything. What someone says is quickly undone by what they do, especially when the prevailing public attitude towards something is negative.

Of course, Paul is free to accept the donations from white supremists. He’s also free to accept the donations of Nevada brothel owner Dennis Hof:

Hookers For Paul

By doing so, though, it appears as though Ron Paul, by accepting their endorsements, also endorses them. Whether he actually does or not is of no consequence. The appearance that he does is there.

I believe it’s safe to say that most people in this country disagree with white supremacy. Probably fewer, but by no stretch an insignificant number, disagree with legalized prostitution. If he accepts donations from these people, that’s completely fair and legal, but it will also only hurt him in the long run, as the appearance will be that he supports legalized prostitution and white supremacy, and I don’t think that America is ready for a President that would support those things…
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Re: Should Ron Paul Accept Money From "White Supremacists" ??

And, frankly, Jesus Christ could fall off the cross and give Ron Paul a billion dollars, and Paul still wouldn't get elected.

It doesn't really matter who does and doesn't give Ron Paul money. The guy's got a better chance of having a baby than he does being elected President...
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Re: Should Ron Paul Accept Money From "White Supremacists" ??

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It means that they follow yours. Where am I not applying my standards to myself?????
Do all of your financial transactions/acceptances include only people with whom you share all ideas?
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Why are you deliberately not looking at the political context that I put this argument in? Why do you equate an ebay sale to a political donation?
Why does it apply to one and not the other?
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You might take money from Hitler as a gift or donation - I wouldn't

'nuff said.
So that would make me follow all of Hitler's policies/ideas?
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Re: Should Ron Paul Accept Money From "White Supremacists" ??

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And, frankly, Jesus Christ could fall off the cross and give Ron Paul a billion doallrs, and Paul still wouldn't get elected.

It doesn't really matter who does and doesn't give Ron Paul money. The guy's got a better chance of having a baby than he does being elected President...

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Re: Should Ron Paul Accept Money From "White Supremacists" ??

Yet again Slon, what are you getting at here?

Surely even you can understand the difference between a political donation from a known white supremacist source and a tip from a stranger/payment from an ebay buyer?

Why are you choosing to be so obtuse?
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Re: Should Ron Paul Accept Money From "White Supremacists" ??

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Why are you choosing to be so obtuse?
Dodge is defined by his obstuseness...
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Re: Should Ron Paul Accept Money From "White Supremacists" ??

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Slon will now insist that you present your rationale for accepting a bid from someone on eBay without knowing their political persuasion...

Steve - can you also tell me next week's lottery numbers as your prediction has proved to be uncannily accurate

lol
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Re: Should Ron Paul Accept Money From "White Supremacists" ??

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Steve - can you also tell me next week's lottery numbers as your prediction has proved to be uncannily accurate

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Unfortunately, one need not be psychic to predict what Dodge (aka Slon) will do...
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Re: Should Ron Paul Accept Money From "White Supremacists" ??

@Steve

Damn, I guess I'll have to keep on working then!
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Re: Should Ron Paul Accept Money From "White Supremacists" ??

Dr Paul has already accepted Don Black's $500 donation, folks. And he ain't grovelling before the jewish Anti-Defamation League who's demanding he give it back.

So get over it.

Dr Paul stands on principle, not on jewish political correctness or orders from the "chosen" ones.

Mark my words, he ain't giving it back.

None of the other candidates would keep the money, though. Why? Simply because if they weren't kosher/jewish approved in the first place, you'd never have even heard of them. Every one of them would sell their daughters into slavery in Zimbabwe for an endorsement by the jewish Anti-Defamation League or the NAACP or the La Raza (The Race).
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