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Should Ron Paul Accept Money From "White Supremacists" ??

This topic has been big in the news recently, caused by the uproar over a $500.00 donation to the Paul campaign, by Don Black, webmaster of Stormfront - Discussion Board for Activists, a "white supremacist" discussion forum with over 100,000 members, worldwide.

This prompted Abe Foxman, head of the Jewish Anti-Defamation League (ADL) to issue a demand that Ron Paul refuse the $500.00 donation. To date, Paul has refused to.

I believe Dr Paul should tell the ADL to mind their business, and he should accept the money.

Black's supporters have raised hundreds of thousands of dollars for Paul's campaign, in my calculation. Many other similar websites/forums are also working hard to promote, and raise funds for, Ron Paul's campaign.

Just wondering where you folks stand on this controversial issue.
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Re: Should Ron Paul Accept Money From "White Supremacists" ??

so how is it Ron Pauls fault that these people want to contribute to him? Im not taking a position on whether he should keep or return the money but I dont like the whole guilt by association mentality that people are somehow to blame if some controversial group supports them
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Re: Should Ron Paul Accept Money From "White Supremacists" ??

I have heard things about Ron Paul supporters being racist but I haven't seen anything to confirm that but it would probably be in his best interest to give it back. I would not feel comfortable voting for anybody if I had a suspension of them having that sort of agenda or even support.
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Re: Should Ron Paul Accept Money From "White Supremacists" ??

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so how is it Ron Pauls fault that these people want to contribute to him? Im not taking a position on whether he should keep or return the money but I dont like the whole guilt by association mentality that people are somehow to blame if some controversial group supports them
Yes, it begs the question, should individual contributor's personal beliefs or political associations, even be an issue, regardless of which candidate they choose to support financially.

We can be certain for example, that Hilliary and Bill have received tons of money from lefist (communist-like) groups and individuals, and without being attacked by the main stream media, for accepting the money.
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Re: Should Ron Paul Accept Money From "White Supremacists" ??

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so how is it Ron Pauls fault that these people want to contribute to him? Im not taking a position on whether he should keep or return the money but I dont like the whole guilt by association mentality that people are somehow to blame if some controversial group supports them
But if Paul returns the money, he'll be violating his own stated principles of freedom for all, special rights for none, thus greatly disappoint many of his local supporters, who strongly believe in the US Constitution.

To deny financial contributions from any person, in effect, disinfranchises them, and prevents their equal participation in the election process.

I mean, if it's proper to refuse money from one group, then it should also be proper to refuse money from any group. Where will it end ??
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Re: Should Ron Paul Accept Money From "White Supremacists" ??

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I have heard things about Ron Paul supporters being racist but I haven't seen anything to confirm that but it would probably be in his best interest to give it back. I would not feel comfortable voting for anybody if I had a suspension of them having that sort of agenda or even support.
I agree he should give the money back or it appears like hes endorsing them
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Re: Should Ron Paul Accept Money From "White Supremacists" ??

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Yes, it begs the question, should individual contributor's personal beliefs or political associations, even be an issue, regardless of which candidate they choose to support financially.

We can be certain for example, that Hilliary and Bill have received tons of money from lefist (communist-like) groups and individuals, and without being attacked by the main stream media, for accepting the money.
no candidate should be attacked for who supports them
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Re: Should Ron Paul Accept Money From "White Supremacists" ??

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But if Paul returns the money, he'll be violating his own stated principles of freedom for all, special rights for none, thus greatly disappoint many of his local supporters, who strongly believe in the US Constitution.

To deny financial contributions from any person, in effect, disinfranchises them, and prevents their equal participation in the election process.

I mean, if it's proper to refuse money from one group, then it should also be proper to refuse money from any group. Where will it end ??
Not really. He has the freedom to give the money back. Much of his philosophy is based on mutually agreed on exchange. If he doesn't except it then it isn't mutual. The freedom of the person making the donation ends where Ron Paul's begins.
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Re: Should Ron Paul Accept Money From "White Supremacists" ??

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But if Paul returns the money, he'll be violating his own stated principles of freedom for all, special rights for none, thus greatly disappoint many of his local supporters, who strongly believe in the US Constitution.

To deny financial contributions from any person, in effect, disinfranchises them, and prevents their equal participation in the election process.

I mean, if it's proper to refuse money from one group, then it should also be proper to refuse money from any group. Where will it end ??
I never thought of that angle ok you got me there
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Re: Should Ron Paul Accept Money From "White Supremacists" ??

It doesn't matter who he takes money from, he'll never be President...
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Re: Should Ron Paul Accept Money From "White Supremacists" ??

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no candidate should be attacked for who supports them
The bottom line is, the zionist controlled media in our country hates Ron Paul, and they will continue to attack Ron Paul anyway, regardless of whether he accepts money from "white supremacists" or not. And if Dr Paul returns the money, he'll lose the respect of many of his supporters, including me.

I think he should stand on his principles by telling the ADL to mind their own business.
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Re: Should Ron Paul Accept Money From "White Supremacists" ??

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The bottom line is, the zionist controlled media in our country hates Ron Paul, and they will continue to attack Ron Paul anyway, regardless of whether he accepts money from "white supremacists" or not. And if Dr Paul returns the money, he'll lose the respect of many of his supporters, including me.

I think he should stand on his principles by telling the ADL to mind their own business.
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Re: Should Ron Paul Accept Money From "White Supremacists" ??

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Not really. He has the freedom to give the money back. Much of his philosophy is based on mutually agreed on exchange. If he doesn't except it then it isn't mutual. The freedom of the person making the donation ends where Ron Paul's begins.
You mean he should deliberately and publicly prevent hundreds of thousands of American citizens from exercising their right to equally participate in the election process, for president of the United States ?? Ron Paul is the candidate of their free choice.
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Re: Should Ron Paul Accept Money From "White Supremacists" ??

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You mean he should deliberately and publicly prevent hundreds of thousands of American citizens from exercising their right to equally participate in the election process, for president of the United States ?? Ron Paul is the candidate of their free choice.
It's private donations to his campaign so he gets to make that choice.
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Re: Should Ron Paul Accept Money From "White Supremacists" ??

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The bottom line is, the zionist controlled media in our country hates Ron Paul, and they will continue to attack Ron Paul anyway, regardless of whether he accepts money from "white supremacists" or not. And if Dr Paul returns the money, he'll lose the respect of many of his supporters, including me.

I think he should stand on his principles by telling the ADL to mind their own business.
groups like the ADL have no right judging the extremism of others
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