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Old 11-25-2007
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Agreed at the present. However, I can't remember a time when these types weren't bitter and angry. Their entire philosophy is built upon hate, fear, greed, and false arrogance. Their inability to own their multitude of huge miscalculations, missteps, blunders, and flat out f*ckups and take personal responsibility for the results, baffles the minds of every thinking person. May the next national election drive a wooden stake thru the heart of these antisocial cretens for all time.
You are projecting the sins of the left upon those you despise. The only good thing that can come from allowing Democrats to lead this nation is the fact that all of their lies and excuses will once again be revealed as it was in the early 90s.

The hate, fear, greed, and false arrogance that you speak of pretty much sums up the Liberal elitists that are giving the rest of you a bad name. Even being called Liberal is an insult because of their actions. They want to be called progressives or some other catch-phrase they dream up. They never admit when they've made a mistake. When they screw up they blame it on everyone else because their intentions are more important then their results.

Antisocial is the correct description of a Liberal because being Liberal means never having to say you're sorry. They think they are more intelligent, more cultered and sophisticated, and more enlightened then everyone else. Anyone who doesn't believe in the same nonsense they do is obviously stupid. There's nothing wrong with making mistakes because we can learn from our mistakes. However, Liberals act like making mistakes shows stupidity, so they tend to ignore their own while focusing on the mistakes of others.

What snobbish and boorish behavior. After the string of disasters they've supported for President you would think they would become more introspective, like the right has become, instead of blaming their screw ups on someone else.

Image is more important to them then substance, so what is the result? Candidates that are as phony as the day is long. Candidates that say anything and never can be trusted to follow through on their promises. But if one of them gets in the White House their flaws will become all to apparent. But of course the blame will be placed on a media that they say is supporting Republicans. Horse Shit. Nothing could be further from the truth. Leading with polls instead of conviction is easy. Taking a stand and publicly sticking to it is nearly impossible for Democrats. Even now they are eating major crow for their actions during the war calling our troops murderers and supporting pullouts. As Democrats See Security Gains in Iraq, Tone Shifts - New York Times

But you will never hear them admit to the mistakes they've made over the years. Like Hillary, they will just act like it never happened and very few in the media will question this.


Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton, shown with troops in Iraq, did not support a troop escalation.

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Re: What Does Thanksgiving Mean To Liberals?

everything Mud said is exactly true about the Neocons---talk about projection--and using Hillary as the face of the left is a joke--Leftys hate Hillary--the Clintons are NeoLibs---and Hillary was correct to oppose the escalation--one of the few times she took a principled stand

if you wanna talk about supporting our troops why dont you ask the pentagon why theyre demanding WOUNDED vets to return their $3000 signing bonuses cause supposedly they didnt finish their tours of duty
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everything Mud said is exactly true about the Neocons---talk about projection--and using Hillary as the face of the left is a joke--Leftys hate Hillary--the Clintons are NeoLibs---and Hillary was correct to oppose the escalation--one of the few times she took a principled stand

if you wanna talk about supporting our troops why dont you ask the pentagon why theyre demanding WOUNDED vets to return their $3000 signing bonuses cause supposedly they didnt finish their tours of duty


Libs love to take their sins and make them out to be their enemy's sins which is what you did and what I constantly see from Libs. Pure projection on their parts. Hillary is a prime example of a Lib that loves projecting her crimes on her opponents. She specializes in gutter politics and mud-slinging, and the minute she can't answer a simple question she claims everyone is picking on her because she's a woman and that every question she doesn't want to answer is just mud-slinging from the questioner. Fact is, she doesn't want to answer some of the more important questions everyone needs to know about her.

Hillary and her cronies are the source of most of what you Libs have been crowing about for the last 2 years. Without Hillary and her media insiders you Democrats wouldn't have ever won an election. Her media has been making voters feel like shit about themselves and this country, demonizing Bush and the Republicans, and she claims she is the answer to all of our problems, not the cause of the public's melancholy. There's so much of it out there, so many lies, that even the most ridiculous claims by Liberals has a story or several stories to support them. The whole world has gone insane and Liberals are loving it. What's bad for America is good for the Libs. What's good for America is minimalized or ignored by Liberals.

The wounded soldier story is yet another bullshit media invention. These days wounded troops have the option of remaining for the balance of their commitment but if they choose to ETS then they lose their bonus. We are in the process of building special facilities for wounded soldiers all over the Army. It is their own fault if the opt to leave. The Pentagon has rules and regulations.

An Army as large as ours will always have somebody getting screwed by those rules and regulations. If the media wanted to they could talk all year long about how service members get screwed. Those of us who served expect it to happen. That's why I'm not surprise by the story. The Pentagon is not trying to screw wounded soldiers. There are rules in place that have to be followed even if it means some soldier gets the shaft every once in a while. That is why they offer 20 year retirement. Life in the military is hard. Soldiers bitch about it, that is their right.

In this case we have finance clerks shafting soldiers that they could care less about. Most of the time it's some E-4 Specialist that is pissed about being in the military and any chance they get to screw up a soldier's pay they do it. They take forever to pay you when they owe you but when you owe them they take it right now. All you get is a "NO PAY DUE" on you LES with no prior notice. So stop your crying about our poor soldiers. This is normal, happens every day. But again it goes back to the rules must be followed even if it sounds wrong. If they let them leave and keep their bonuses then somebody will get charged with dereliction of duty.
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Re: What Does Thanksgiving Mean To Liberals?

again the projection must be yours cause everything you said is true about the Neocons--I guess we both have the same opinions but with different culprits--Hillary never was a lib and the party of karl Rove foxnews and swiftboating tactics complaining about mudslinging is very comical


Jordan Fox of Pennsylvania left the military three months early after being hit by a roadside bomb in Iraq. He sustained back injuries and lost all vision in his right eye. Earlier this month he received a Pentagon letter asking him to return some three thousand dollars in sign-up bonuses. Fox and his mother had recently started a program to send thousands of care packages to servicemembers in Iraq.

why doesnt the pentagon get this money out of Halliburton which hasnt done CRAP for the money they get in Iraq instead of stealing from wounded vets?
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Re: What Does Thanksgiving Mean To Liberals?

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You are projecting the sins of the left upon those you despise...

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I'll not waste my or your time if the best you can come up with is an adolescent "I know you are but what am I." Frankly, Pee Wee Hermin does it better.
You're argument is weak and misinformed.

Thanks for not wasting my time.
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Re: What Does Thanksgiving Mean To Liberals?

everyone projects things onto their opponents--stop blaming your liberal scapegoat for human nature itself
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You're argument is weak and misinformed.

Thanks for not wasting my time.
Well friend, since you seem to have little more than personal insults, I'll leave it to those who read this to be the judge.
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Re: What Does Thanksgiving Mean To Liberals?

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Probably because every policy they implemented has failed. Afghanistan, Iraq, supply side economics, no child left behind, Medicare prescription plan, record government growth, you name it, it's a gross failure and will cost us dearly way into the future.
I always thought PJ O'Rourke summed it up nicely:

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Re: What Does Thanksgiving Mean To Liberals?

republicans use the govt for their rich friends to loot and get special priviledges from
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Re: What Does Thanksgiving Mean To Liberals?

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Most people would say that Thanksgiving means giving thanks for what God has given us.

Because the Politically Correct answer can't have God in it, what does Thanksgiving really mean to us.

Most would say that the Thanksgiving story was about the kindness of Native Americans to White Settlers hundreds of years ago.

Was it about Pilgrims who escaped England in the 1600s who were starving and needed the help of an Indian named Squanto? That is the popular version.

Turkeys weren't part of the feast then. Some say it started when Lincoln pardoned their turkey from the feast or that it could have started when Truman pardoned a turkey in 1947. Who knows for sure because turkey evolved over the years into being the traditional dish for Thanksgiving.

Abraham Lincoln designated that Thanksgiving would be held on the finale Thursday in November. FDR changed it in 1939 to the second-to-last Thursday in November.



Now, progressives are trying to tell us that Thanksgiving isn't a happy holiday for Native Americans. I think they just want to make us all feel bad about yet another holiday similar to the way they've tried to destroy Christmas.
Seems to me that Thanksgiving for most Americans means eating more food per person on that day than a lot of people on this planet get to eat in a week! And, of course, watching a football game as one lays groaning on the couch!

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Re: What Does Thanksgiving Mean To Liberals?

Why are you guys wasting your time on this troll? He has nothing factual to say at all. Each statement is opinion and illustrates his own hatred for the founding principles of our nation. Each emotional outburst confirms his incapacity for rational thought, like his wish to attack a room full of liberals with a baseball bat while at the same time rebuking those who do not stand against abortion and such.

Like Steve said, this whole thread is retarded. Full of Mudwhistle's hate, denial, and sociopathic tendencies.

My Thanksgiving was full of pleasant family company, with food and drink. I'm thankful for that, among many other things.
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republicans use the govt for their rich friends to loot and get special priviledges from
Dems are no slouches when it comes to graft. Our system invites abuse.
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Now, progressives are trying to tell us that Thanksgiving isn't a happy holiday for Native Americans. I think they just want to make us all feel bad about yet another holiday similar to the way they've tried to destroy Christmas.
Did anyone else notice this?

In the OP, we get shades of the standard blather about "The War on Christmas", liberals eating puppies, Thanksgiving being a holiday about God and liberals hating that, etc. Pretty standard Rush talking points and a strawman not really worthy of notice or discussion. But, then there was this, cited by the OP:

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Abraham Lincoln's successors as president followed his example of annually declaring the final Thursday in November to be Thanksgiving. But in 1939, President Franklin D. Roosevelt declared that Thanksgiving would be the second-to-last Thursday of November rather than the last. With the country still in the midst of The Great Depression, Roosevelt thought this would give merchants a longer period to sell goods before Christmas. Increasing profits and spending during this period, Roosevelt hoped, would aid bringing the country out of the Depression. At the time, it was considered inappropriate to advertise goods for Christmas until after Thanksgiving. However, since a presidential declaration of Thanksgiving Day was not legally binding, 23 states went along with Roosevelt's recommendation, and 22 did not
It seems that the "real meaning" of Thanksgiving, according to the OP's own source, is to tell people when it's appropriate to start engaging in materialism - the "real meaning" of Christmas. That's right, these two sacred days when we celebrate God (or something) are simply bookends for shopping sprees.

Of course, I don't believe that on a personal level, the fun of such (often relevant) cynicism notwithstanding. And, of course, the OP doesn't believe that (opting to believe instead, probably, that Thanksgiving celebrates the time that Jesus cooked turkeys for pilgrims'n'indians). I just find it sort of hilarious that, in a screed about Godless liberals ruining God-filled holy days, we would find such a reference.
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Dems are no slouches when it comes to graft. Our system invites abuse.
Neither are Republicans, as recent and not-so-recent news reports and Congressional inquiries have demonstrated over the last few years.

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