yeah those neoconservative real men love watching other men grab and tackle each other below the waste

Yeah, no kidding. And in another decade or two, the Mexicans that will finish taking back the southern USA can be thankful for the second failure to enforce their illegal immigration policies. Then when the muslims take it away from the mexicans...............

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Why can't you just shut up about that shit?

it's only once a year, for Chris'sake!

And jeepers people, if you're not going to give it a good sear at about 425-450 for fifteen minutes before turning it down to a low roast you've ruined the poor little fucker and might as well just have turned it loose to crap in the neighbor's yard.

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That's not very tolerant of you. What do you have against homosexuals? Are you saying that they aren't "real men"?

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no I just meant you dont have to be a real man to care about watching sports

"Below the waste"? What's on your mind, skeeter?

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That is just a stereotypical Liberal excuse.

"Everyone is doing it!!!!"

I guess you could say a poor excuse is better then no excuse at all.

But this is how Libs escape accountability; by saying that everyone else is just as dishonest as they are. That is not an excuse. Nobody held a gun to their heads you know.

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"You never want a serious crisis to go to waste...." - Rahm Emmanuel

First of all, you've made it pretty plain that I'm not your friend.

Second, the only way you could think that what I've said about Libs applies to you is if you are guilty of the acts I've illustrated in this thread and that is the only reason you would feel personally insulted by the truth. It's similar to the Liberal argument that anyone who wants border security must be a racist. Your argument is equally untrue and uses similar thought processes to derive your false conclusions.

Third, Libs love to blame others. That is all we've been hearing from them for over 6 years. Bush did this and Bush did that. Talk, talk, talk, talk, and nothing gets done. People say this country is falling apart. Why do Democrats feel that all of their negativity is going to do anything but tear us apart. Everyone hates everyone, but who started it? It usually isn't the party in power. For your information the only effective tactic a politician can use is mud-slinging against the ruling party. Since the media supports Democrats 100% who do you think the source of all of the attacks and all of the mud-slinging is, Bush?

No, you're just a shill for the Democrats and reality doesn't really concern you. I presented the truth to you and you just relate my position to a Pee Wee Herman argument, which is the same thing as calling me a child. Now who really insulted who. Looks like you projected your insulting attitude onto me which pretty much proved my point pretty convincingly.

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"You never want a serious crisis to go to waste...." - Rahm Emmanuel

its not a poor excuse when its TRUE--are you that blind to your own bias?

yet your the one who started this partisan flame fest by blaming libs with your OP

So my first mistake was posting something you didn't agree with, which in retrospect was pretty tame.

Then I just reponded to a comment by a Lib blaming everything in creation on the right. So who really is guilty of starting it.

Besides, you always have the option to ignore anything I post. You don't have to keep coming back and continue pointing fingers rather then accepting responsibility in any shape or form. Everything you post only further proves I was right from the beginning. You cannot bring yourself to admit when you are wrong.

This is your choice, not mine. I'm not forcing you to continue.

Maybe next time you should consider dropping the subject if you don't want it to turn into a pissing-contest.

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It is not true.

Truth is, not everyone is dishonest to the point that Democrats are these days. This is the same excuse I hear every day from anyone who is crazy enough to vote Democrat. The Democrat Party appeals to the unhappy masses. Those who feel the world is all screwed up and that everyone is equally evil. Democrat voters aren't happy with their choices but they feel they are justified in their choice because the right has been so demonized by the media that they are merely choosing the lessor of two evils. The entire focus of the Democrats has been to lower our expectations for a good system of government. Little do they know that most of the bad press the right gets is a product of a massive conspiracy to overthrow the Republican Congress and steal back the White House. It is all a swindle.

Most people you ask that are unhappy about their lives can't really express in real terms what it is that they are unhappy about. They just know that life sucks in America. They usually say that their thoughts on the matter are confused or "all over the place" is the common phrase used. Democrats are supported by a very confused voter base. This is a by-product of a media campaign designed to give voters an unsettled feeling about government or an over all feeling of melancholy. The only thing they know is they want change. Little do they know that the change means higher taxes, massive job losses, but hopefully a political party that will have a better media image thus a more trustworthy reputation. It is all fake.

The Democrats and their media co-conspirators have sold us a bill of goods over the last several years that government isn't worthy of our trust. Now they want us to trust them with even more of our tax dollars. When a legislative tactic like 'Ear Marks' becomes unpopular, mostly because they made it unpopular by pointing out it's negative aspects, they just change the name rather then end the practice. They are still using Ear Marks even thought they have criminalized the practice and used it to oust Republicans.

They are trying to spend even more then the Republicans they replaced even though they have been telling us for over a year that we're broke. Instead of cutting spending they tell us they need to raise taxes so they can throw more money at their pet-projects. The wasteful spending isn't over with, it's just under new management.

Wait till a Dem gets in the White House because the flood-gates will open then. The only thing protecting us from massive tax increases it Bush. We can't count on the Republicans anymore. They're as tired of the Democrats nasty tactics as the voters are. Many of them are leaving in droves. It seems only the liars and con-artists will remain. Honor and civility is a thing of the past. And why is this? Because Democrats think that your votes have told them that they can get away with all of this. Even though they have been lying to you with your full knowledge your willful ignorance tells them you don't really care anymore. Your support for con-artists and compulsive liars like the Clintons, Al Gore, and John Kerry supports this belief.

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"You never want a serious crisis to go to waste...." - Rahm Emmanuel

The republicans are the ones who scream that there is a terrorist behind every tree. It's the rebublicans who claim hispanics are out to destroy white culture. If Democrats appeal to the unhappy masses then republicans appeal to the scared shitless masses. You really want to talk about earmarks following 6 of the most free spending years by any congress? And it was a republican congress. How many of those spending bills did Bush veto? I'll give you a hint. It was less than 1. The only difference is that Bush finances all this spending by borrowing money from the Saudis, the Japanese and the Chinese. Who's going to pay those bills? Your kids and your grandkids that's who. Does Bush give a fuck? Of course not, all he cares about is keeping taxes low for the duration of his administration. It will be up to the next administration to clean up his mess. Willfull ignorance? What a joke. Clinton left us with a surplus. Bush left us drowning in debt with a gaping money hole in Iraq still wide open. All of your incoherent rage can't change that.

I guess 9/11 wasn't enough to convince you of how vulnerable we are. I guess you think that terrorism isn't a threat to you personally because you weren't living in New York when those jets hit the towers. Everyone that was living and working there that day would say you don't know what you're talking about.

Republicans are being accused by Libs of racism just because they want to keep people from coming here and stealing our Social Security benefits out from under us. Funny, Republicans were the ones voicing their opinions on the Amnesty bill and many of them were supporting it, while the Democrats meekly hid under a rock refusing to talk about it. Democrats support giving everything to illegals that come here just to get their votes and shafting everyone who was born here or pays taxes here. This is why they want to give them drivers licenses.

When West Germany merged with East Germany the poor in the East drained the national nest-egg that Germans had built up over decades. They are a Socialist Country and their whole retirement is now gone because of what their government gave to the poor. Now Democrats want to do the same here.

Learning English forces immigrants to learn our ways thus the melting-pot we always strive for is maintained. Letting them keep their own language exclusively and never forcing them to learn our common language encourages them never to assimilate into American life causing hatred and divisions. Europe and especially France is feeling the effects of this lunatic policy. This kind of Political Correctness will cause the destruction of our country if it is allowed to continue.

Most of the spending was contained in Defense Bills to up armor Hummers and buy body armor, things you Libs screamed for, as well as disaster recovery programs for Katrina and other storms, prescription drug programs, you name it. It was needed. It wasn't for expansion of SCHIP programs intended to backdoor Universal Health Care and it wasn't for bribes for the poor so they will vote for Republicans. They still use Ear Marks but now they want to change the name so we won't accuse them of hypocrisy.
Earmarks weren't considered illegal until Democrats decided to make it into a campaign issue, much like the way Democrat Administrations used Haliburton for decades (LBJ, Carter, and Clinton all used Haliburton as a contractor overseas) until they decided they could use it to demonize the Bush Administration.


The mess we are in is part false perception and part reality and a direct result of the failure of Congress to work together, not the Bush Administration. They are so busy fighting among themselves they have no time to do the people's business. They only have time to score political points and placate their special interest groups.

The Clinton surplus was a result of a Republican Congress that decided that the people's business was more important then scoring political points like the Democrats today do. It's a disgrace how they want to let everything go to hell and not allow Bush to accomplish anything without fighting him at every turn. Democrats ruined California the same exact way.

They want to fix Social Security and Medicare now but only their way, not Bush's way. Remember how proudly they cheered when Bush said Social Security was finished and Harry Reid bragged "We stopped Social Security reform!!" The Democrats' lack of cooperation and their dishonest manner of doing business is the main cause of the 'mess' in Washington. Outright hatred is seen daily in those hallowed halls of Congress rather then mutual-respect and an atmosphere of bipartisanship that used to be common.

And you talk about rage. You should talk. Reciting Lib talking points doesn't cover up the fact that you have plenty of it yourself, only yours isn't justifiable like mine is. I'm tired of the lies and tired of the finger-pointing from the left. I think everyone is tired of it. Purhaps the failure of several anti-war movies from folks like Robert Redford and others, which they've timed to be released near the start of the primary season, their failure proves we Americans as a whole are tired of being preached to. We would rather watch football or watch Dancing With The Stars then listen to some nut screaming about how we're torturing terrorists.

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"You never want a serious crisis to go to waste...." - Rahm Emmanuel