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Old 11-28-2007
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Re: What Does Thanksgiving Mean To Liberals?

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First of all, you've made it pretty plain that I'm not your friend.

Second, the only way you could think that what I've said about Libs applies to you is if you are guilty of the acts I've illustrated in this thread and that is the only reason you would feel personally insulted by the truth. It's similar to the Liberal argument that anyone who wants border security must be a racist. Your argument is equally untrue and uses similar thought processes to derive your false conclusions.

Third, Libs love to blame others. That is all we've been hearing from them for over 6 years. Bush did this and Bush did that. Talk, talk, talk, talk, and nothing gets done. People say this country is falling apart. Why do Democrats feel that all of their negativity is going to do anything but tear us apart. Everyone hates everyone, but who started it? It usually isn't the party in power. For your information the only effective tactic a politician can use is mud-slinging against the ruling party. Since the media supports Democrats 100% who do you think the source of all of the attacks and all of the mud-slinging is, Bush?

No, you're just a shill for the Democrats and reality doesn't really concern you. I presented the truth to you and you just relate my position to a Pee Wee Herman argument, which is the same thing as calling me a child. Now who really insulted who. Looks like you projected your insulting attitude onto me which pretty much proved my point pretty convincingly.
Hmmmm...

For someone that seemed worried about having your time wasted, you sure tossed away a sizeable chunk on that. BTW, Pee Wee Herman is an adult. So blather on, I'll be sure to give your thoughts all of the consideration they deserve.

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Old 12-02-2007
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The outspoken ones.

Usually they hate me for my beliefs and they usually think they are more intelligent because of it. They often feel that their I.Q. went up 50 points just because they voted Democrat in the last election. They also feel that anyone who is against abortion must be a Bible-Banger and that anyone who believes in God must be retarded and that Christianity is a malignant disease. They should be thankful that they had parents that didn't take advantage of Roe v. Wade.

Athiests tend to be Liberals. They also tend to be morally loose which means they usually have no problem with homosexual lifestyles being taught to children. I just think that kids, and I'm talking about grades K thru 9th grade, don't need the stress that sexual education of any kind causes. Is there any wonder why there are so many turning to Homeschooling.

I have no problem with Gays. My sister is Gay. I usually can spot someone who is Gay pretty easily, but not always. Hillary is Gay, Al Gore is Gay, Oprah is Gay, Elton John, The Rock, Neil Patrick Harras, Lance Bass from NSYNC, Richard Camberlain, Melissa Etheridge, Rupert Everett, David Geffen, Johnny Mathis, Sir Ian McKellen was Gandalf in LOTR, George Michael, Boy George, George Takai better known a Sulu on Star Trek is a flaming homosexual, all of 'The Kids In The Hall', Barry Mannilow, and the list goes on. If you walk like Hillary Clinton, love 'Grey's Anatomy', or listen to K.D. Lang records you might be Gay. Almost every one of the above hates Bush for one reason: because he is a professed Christian. This is Ancient Rome all over again. The rich and powerful (In Hollywood) are persecuting Christians once again.

I can't lump everyone into classes and stereotypes because that is what Liberals do. People are people. Some Liberals give others a bad name. Rosie O'Donnell, and those who think 9/11 was an inside job give all of them a bad name. I have a problem with their judgment when it comes to politics because they keep pushing phonies for political office. Al Gore, John Kerry, Bill Clinton, and now Hillary. Some day they will stop acting like they don't see that their candidate is a liar and find someone who is worth voting for.

Hillary is dangerous because she has too much to hide and she can be tricked into doing something that purely self-serving which will end up bad for this country. She's taking money from the Chinese and she has too many flaws to be an effective President. She has a Lebanese girlfriend who could easily be a spy. If Hillary gets in the Oval Office you might as well say our enemies will be running this country.

Hillary lived with Donna Shalala for five years. Donna Shalala is currently on the board of directors for Gannett Company which owns USA Today, ARMY TIMES, and various other papers and magazines. It is a terrible situation when a political candidate has the inside track on that large a segment of the news media.

Harry Reid is a traitor and an idiot, Nancy Pelosi wants to be Hillary but she hates her guts. Both of them are corrupt and incompitent leaders. Nether of them is truely Liberal but they play the part in Congress just to get money and votes.

Liberals in Hollywood and the music industry are professing their anti-Bush beliefs just to get rich or get a better gig. Kanye West, George Clooney, and Sean Penn fall into this group.

Liberals seem to think that man is the cause of every problem on Earth. Most of the time Nature goes haywire. Man isn't always the cause of it.

Sorry for the rant.

These are examples of Liberals and sorry to say they are the ones who are giving the rest of them a bad name. To many of them winning in Iraq would be terrible. They want this country to suffer for our ancestors evil deeds. They only hold this country in contempt. They are too quick to point fingers yet never willing to accept blame themselves because they are the ones with good intentions even though they couldn't do a better job themselves.

I have met too many of them on sites like this.


You must be joking.

Your sister is gay, yet you still call it a lifestyle? What's her opinion on your take on her "lifestyle"?

Oh and it's not just Christianity that is a malignant disease, but all exclusive belief structures which pit one person's beliefs against another's.

Funny how you say you don't sterotype people, while you're sterotyping people.

You're too funny.

I hope you had a great Thanksgiving.
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Oh and it's not just Christianity that is a malignant disease, but all exclusive belief structures which pit one person's beliefs against another's.


I wouldn’t say it’s malignant as that depends one the actions of said structure in its exclusivity or its actions where in it is pitting ones belief’s against another’s....

Every 2 months or so, I get a knock on my door; its either Jehovah’s Witnesses or Mormans...they give me their 5 minute spiel a hand of publications etc. explaining their faith..I'd say that’s pretty benign and they are well within their rights to do so, just as I when I say thx, I admire their strength of belief, but not their particular faith.......I am within my right .....I understand the view regarding all religion being divisive, and has lead to innumerable wars and other unspeakable acts... etc......but none the less, I think it also has done a great deal of good, in the end out weighing the negatives.......
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I wouldn’t say it’s malignant as that depends one the actions of said structure in its exclusivity or its actions where in it is pitting ones belief’s against another’s....

Every 2 months or so, I get a knock on my door; its either Jehovah’s Witnesses or Mormans...they give me their 5 minute spiel a hand of publications etc. explaining their faith..I'd say that’s pretty benign and they are well within their rights to do so, just as I when I say thx, I admire their strength of belief, but not their particular faith.......I am within my right .....I understand the view regarding all religion being divisive, and has lead to innumerable wars and other unspeakable acts... etc......but none the less, I think it also has done a great deal of good, in the end out weighing the negatives.......
If you close your gate and post your property is it still their right to do so on private property?
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If you close your gate and post your property is it still their right to do so on private property?
negative..it isn't, so where’s this analogy going? Missionary work etc.?
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Re: What Does Thanksgiving Mean To Liberals?

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I have no problem with Gays. My sister is Gay. I usually can spot someone who is Gay pretty easily, but not always. Hillary is Gay, Al Gore is Gay, Oprah is Gay, Elton John, The Rock, Neil Patrick Harras, Lance Bass from NSYNC, Richard Camberlain, Melissa Etheridge, Rupert Everett, David Geffen, Johnny Mathis, Sir Ian McKellen was Gandalf in LOTR, George Michael, Boy George, George Takai better known a Sulu on Star Trek is a flaming homosexual, all of 'The Kids In The Hall', Barry Mannilow, and the list goes on.
First off, congratulations on your gaydar, it isnt easy, you have to work on it.
Second, FWIW...

Elton John, Neil Patrick Harris, Lance Bass, Richard Chamberlain, Melissa Etheridge, Rupert Everett, David Geffen, Sir Ian McKellen, George Michael, Boy George, George Takai....did your gaydar spot them before or after they publicly announced they were gay? I ask because you say Hillary, Al Gore and The Rock are gay as well.



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If you walk like Hillary Clinton, love 'Grey's Anatomy', or listen to K.D. Lang records you might be Gay.


Are you saying that because *gasp* T.R. Knight is gay? As for K.D. Lang, does this mean gay people cant listen to straight music because it means they might be straight? I've known one or two people with webbed feet, are they ducks?

Holy headache, batman.

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I can't lump everyone into classes and stereotypes because that is what Liberals do.
Ah...umm....OK. I think I'll leave now and let you sort this out with yourself.
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negative..it isn't, so where’s this analogy going? Missionary work etc.?
It would seem you're receptive to their Christian missionary work (or you would have posted your property). Would you be as responsive to Buddhists, Muslims, Hindus, Snake handlers or become weary of the crowd gathering at your door, each proclaiming to be the only true religion with some prepared to go to war as necessary to prove it?
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It would seem you're receptive to their Christian missionary work (or you would have posted your property). Would you be as responsive to Buddhists, Muslims, Hindus, Snake handlers or become weary of the crowd gathering at your door, each proclaiming to be the only true religion with some prepared to go to war as necessary to prove it?
It's quite a leap to assume one is receptive to missionary work if they haven't posted their property.
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It's quite a leap to assume one is receptive to missionary work if they haven't posted their property.
agreed...it just isn't an issue for me...worth adding a fence or posting signage etc....and I can say honestly, I have read half the book of Mormon, and have read the Jehovah literature....if Muslim, Buddhist or Hindu missionaries would show up at my door, I would do nothing different.....

Considering the fantastic success of Christian missionary work in disparate continents especially Asia and Africa, there must be something to the message...
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It's quite a leap to assume one is receptive to missionary work if they haven't posted their property.
Depends on the frequency of missionaries appearing on their property. A couple a month would seem like one is on the open-minded list or within close proximity to one of their worship sites. While living in Las Vegas I became friends with several Mormons even though I didn't share their belief system and stories regarding their missionary work (required of all serious and able Mormons, generally two years after high school and before college) were most entertaining and yes, they had people appear nude, drunk and high with rude comments at the door to dissuade them. They, and the Jehovah's Witness who performs casual labor for me, all said they don't call on posted property.
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Doogie Howser is gay?
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Doogie Howser is gay?
Oh, now that part of the post makes sense. Neil Patrick harris - Doogie. I don't really pay much attention to it, but I seem to recall he came out a bit ago. Any gaydar I may have (which seems to be none) didn't pick it up, either.
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I'm sorry, I love this remark so much I had to pay it homage as my signature.
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I wouldn’t say it’s malignant as that depends one the actions of said structure in its exclusivity or its actions where in it is pitting ones belief’s against another’s....

Every 2 months or so, I get a knock on my door; its either Jehovah’s Witnesses or Mormans...they give me their 5 minute spiel a hand of publications etc. explaining their faith..I'd say that’s pretty benign and they are well within their rights to do so, just as I when I say thx, I admire their strength of belief, but not their particular faith.......I am within my right .....I understand the view regarding all religion being divisive, and has lead to innumerable wars and other unspeakable acts... etc......but none the less, I think it also has done a great deal of good, in the end out weighing the negatives.......
Well, certainly, in one respect, but as a whole, exclusive belief structures unite people to exclude others based on individual or collective beliefs. You choose to exclude passive or otherwise benign religious believers from being, at least in part, negative. The fact remains, even if they're not actively condemning or proclaiming superiority over others, they still do so in practice. For me, divinity exists on earth because of its diversity as a collective, not by the homogony of any particular belief. As long as people hold intangible beliefs to be of greater importance than the here and now, peace on earth will not exist.
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