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Old 11-22-2007
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So....Whatever Happened to LIKING your Presidential Candidate?

It's a good question. Have we completely given in to "the lesser of __ evils?"

With Hillary having an unfavorable view consistently by 49-51% of her own party, you would think that would reflect in those who say that they would vote for her. But those polls are irrefutable. Irregardless of those who say they have an unfavorable view of Hillary, gazillions of those same people are not hesitant to say they will vote for her.

And I use her simply because she, by FAR this election-cycle (and by far in our lifetimes) has the WORST likeability and favoriability rating among her own party and naturally, of course, across party lines.

But the same can be said of all candidates to a degree...some significantly more than others.

Will there be, this cycle, candidates viable for the office of the President that we can both LIKE and want to elect? It is looking rather bleak.

Reagan and Clinton come to mind. There were 2 Presidents who were liked by their parties and far across party lines as they were new President-Elects.

That won't happen this time-around.

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What Happened to Liking the Candidate You Support?


Giuliani and fans at a restaurant in Oak Park, Illinois. (Reuters).

One of the numbers that leaped out of the new Post-ABC News poll of Iowa voters came on the question of which candidate voters see as honest and trustworthy. On that quality, Republicans in the Hawkeye state don't think much of Rudy Giuliani.

Just 4 percent of likely caucus participants cited the former New York mayor, putting him behind Mike Huckabee, Mitt Romney, Fred Thompson and John McCain. At the same time, 31 percent cited Giuliani as the strongest leader in the field, well ahead of all his rivals except Romney (who was at 30 percent).
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A similar though less striking relationship occurred among the Democrats. Hillary Clinton was judged by third of Iowa Democrats to be the strongest leader in the field, but half as many called her the most honest and trustworthy.

The findings seem to raise an obvious question: whatever happened to likeability? When Bill Clinton and George W. Bush were running for president, "likeability" was seen as absolutely critical to a candidate's success. It propelled Clinton past Bush's father in 1992 and gave him a huge advantage over Bob Dole in 1996.

Bush was seen as a more likeable candidate than Al Gore in the disputed election of 2000 and had an even greater edge on that attribute in a 2004 election that was fought on terrain that in many respects favored John Kerry.

This year, Clinton and Giuliani, the two candidates who lead the national polls, get lower ratings on trust and honesty than they do on strength and leadership, and as Mark McKinnon, who did the ads for Bush in 2000 and 2004 and now works for McCain, said Wednesday morning, "You usually don't like people you don't trust."

McKinnon believes something is different now, which doesn't eliminate the importance of a candidate's ability to connect and establish a bond of trust with voters. "There's no question that the equation has changed and the equation has changed because of 9/11," he said. "What that means is that, in presidential elections, it's really not about issues, it's about a constellation of attributes that includes trust, includes shared values, includes strong leadership."

Republican strategist Mike Murphy offered this assessment. "I think likeability is part of the winning mix, but doesn't dominate," he wrote in an email message. "I think people perceive that competence is the important trait right now, so they are willing to take a little less likeability in exchange for a little more cold competence. They're looking for a little less Homer Simpson and a little more Mr. Burns."

Mark Mellman, who was Kerry's pollster in 2004, said other attributes are more important than a candidate's likeability and have been in past elections. "I think likeability is vastly overrated," he wrote. "It is just one dimension of personality to which voters react.

"Bush didn't win in 04 because he was more likeable," he added. "He won because he was seen as more steadfast particularly in fighting terror, which is less relevant today. But it's still not high school. Traits other than likeability are important today and have been in most elections. Strength, leadership, competence, compassion and other personal traits almost always enter into the equation."

In part, what voters may be reflecting is a reaction to what they have seen over the past eight years. Given Bush's low approval rating and the harsh assessments of the administration's competence in managing the war in Iraq and the Katrina aftermath, there's no doubt that voters are looking for more than likeability in their chief executive.

"I think that what voters want in a candidate depends on the voter's verdict on the president in office [and the] state of the nation," Andrew Kohut, who directs the Pew Research Center, wrote in his email response to my question about this. "In this case, people see a failure of leadership in the Bush year, and that's why strong leadership image may be trumping 'likeability.'"

Another Republican strategist, who declined to be identified, agreed that voters appear to have elevated competence over likeability. "You could make the case...," he wrote, "that both Hillary and Rudy generally outdistance their competitors on competence/experience/ability-to-get-the-job-done, etc. Yet Hillary especially is not viewed as especially warm. So what you're essentially seeing is an effort by voters to 'correct' (some might say overcompensate) for the perceived 'flaws' in the current president."

Kohut offered a closing thought for the two national front-runners. Both, he said, have work left to do to assuage voters' concerns about aspects of their personality that might fall under the likeability umbrella: "genuineness for her and volatility for him."

Clinton supporters were quick to note Wednesday the results of a Quinnipiac Poll that showed the New York senator as the Democratic candidate more Americans would like to invite to their Thanksgiving dinner. Giuliani is the favorite among the Republicans. Perhaps that's a reflection of their celebrity status or their overall standing in national polls, but it also suggests that single measures of likeability are not adequate in understanding how voters evaluate the candidates.

Giuliani is selling leadership as his strongest attribute but Katie Levinson, the campaign's communications director, said the former mayor also appeals to voters because they have a sense of a real person. "Voters want someone who is authentic and the real deal -- not someone who is pretending to be something they're not," she wrote.

Whit Ayres, a Republican pollster, said likeability still matters and pointed to Mike Huckabee's rise in Iowa as evidence. He said respect matters more than likeability, but the key to a truly successful presidency is having both. Ayres cited Dwight Eisenhower, John F. Kennedy and Ronald Reagan as three who he believes combined both.

"If you can only have one, respect goes farther in politics, he wrote. "I think that's particular true in a time of national challenge like terrorism, and I think that helps to explain both Giuliani's and Clinton's strength so far."

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Old 11-23-2007
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Re: So....Whatever Happened to LIKING your Presidential Candidate?

whenI see one that I like , I will like them

until then yes we are down to the lesser of two evils

the one who we think will do the least damage.
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Old 11-23-2007
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Re: So....Whatever Happened to LIKING your Presidential Candidate?

I don't think we should like them...
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Old 11-23-2007
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Re: So....Whatever Happened to LIKING your Presidential Candidate?

I wish there was someone in the race who I was actually enthusiastic about. You know honestly, for me and I doubt I am alone on this, is the campaign process and what it has evolved into.
The notion that winning the White House will take fundraising 100million dollars minimum is ridiculous. The parties control the entire process, the primary system is beyond being remotely fair. The other thing, even for myself who is someone who enjoys politics and follows the actions of government. I cant stand having this shit shoved down my throat for 2 years at a time. I live in an entirely inconsequential state when it comes to Presidential elections. We have had two Presidential candidates visit since 2000. Nader in 2000, Kucinich in 04. I cant imagine how sick and tired the folks of Iowa, NH and any important swing states during the general election.
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Old 11-23-2007
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Re: So....Whatever Happened to LIKING your Presidential Candidate?

As a candidate, I like Obama. There's also some others out there that I would like if they ran (Evan Bayh and Mark Warner). I just really wish Al Gore would run... THAT would be a candidate I could get real excited to vote for.
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Old 11-27-2007
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Re: So....Whatever Happened to LIKING your Presidential Candidate?

Ron Paul is likable because he's so honest.

As for the rest of the Republican field, these guys are all like, "No I hate gays even more than you! I'll kill more people and terrorists than you! I think women who get pregnant by mistake should be sent to Gitmo!". It's a hate-on between the so-called frontrunners on the right while Ron Paul has preserved his dignity and integrity throughout. He's the only candidate on either side right now who is all about ideas, even if you disagree with some of them.
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Old 11-27-2007
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Re: So....Whatever Happened to LIKING your Presidential Candidate?

The last candidate I "liked" was Ronald Reagan. Since then, it's come down to who sucks less...
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Old 11-28-2007
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Re: So....Whatever Happened to LIKING your Presidential Candidate?

I agree with that earlier poster who said that "like" shouldn't even be part of the equation. Take Mike Huckabee for instance. The guy has shot up in the polls in Iowa because unlike the frontrunners in his party, he's a "nice" man. It's like that's all it takes for the average idiot. Nevermind that he is for policing the planet and for amnesty of illegal aliens and has raised taxes in his state numerous times, he's nice. So what? You want nice? Get a freakin' puppy dog. This is about electing someone who has a clear direction for the country and who, come January 2009, will have the biggest job in the world to fill and a set of foreign and domestic concerns that are unrivalled in America's history with two wars, a 10 trillion dollar debt, no policy on the envirionment, and much resentment from around the world. It's a tall order this time, but Iowans are beginning to "like" Huckabee. He's such a nice man!
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Old 11-28-2007
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Re: So....Whatever Happened to LIKING your Presidential Candidate?

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As a candidate, I like Obama.
Even though you said his base are gnat span attention disorientated and can't handle facts; just one liners? I guess that makes him likeable even though he is followed by a bunch of idiots....especially to those idiots who don't have to concentrate too hard to like him.
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