Really? Hmmm... I'll have to check it out. Thanks!

It's a chicken or the egg question, tho. Huckabee didn't start gaining in the polls until the media was reporting him (from what I could see).

As for Paul and his support, how come he consistently wins straw polls?

I agree w. you on the lecture.

He wins straw polls because his supporters tell each other when they are going on and rig the vote.

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So, basically, what you are saying is that it's a very small group of people taking action... to make it seem like there is a large following.

Sure, its not uncommon. He loses in the more scientific polls, not that I beleive any poll. But the ones that anyone can answer are rigged. I can only assume he has a lot of non registered republican support.

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See, that was the one thing that I was not sure about - the conflict of the straw polls and the scientific polls.

I, too, don't believe in polls anymore. Actually, anytime I hear a poll I think of this:

YouTube - Penn and Teller Defend Ron Paul vs. Luntz and Fox News (nsfw - language)

And, no, the title has nothing to really do with the content.

Pretty funny, but there is little way to manipulate "who would you vote for" type polls, except in the sample, and those go against Ron Paul. I think polls are bullshit, and I also think equating money with support is bullshit also. Look at the report that Ron Paul recieved more money from soldiers than other candidates. THis was spun as support fromt he military as a whole, which isnt true, as it was less than 1% of the military.

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Yea really. In fact he officially announced his candidacy one morning on Washington Journal.

YouTube - Ron Paul Officially Runs For President - C-SPAN Part 1 of 4

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There is nothing scientific about opinion polls.

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I love the Penn and Teller clip. I find myself actually saying what they suggested when I hear polls on TV or the Radio.

The only way you can really manipulate a "who would you vote for" poll is by NOT having certain candidates included. ;-)

Thanks for this! I truly was unaware.

Some polls matter. However, in the primaries, what they keep leaving out are many facts such as 40% of people in both parties are still undecided. Another variable has to do with people switching parties to vote in the other party's primary.

With Ron Paul I'm encouraged because some polls don't let you choose him, his support is broad between disenchanted Republicans, Democrats and Independents, and he's got the most spirited following. This has been even bigger than Howard Dean four years ago, and he got 23% in Iowa.

I think all Ron Paul needs to do is finish ahead of one of the frontrunners in Iowa, grab 10% there, and for the following 5 days before New Hampshire, the pressure will be on the frontrunner who lost to Paul while Paul's story will improve since he's gaining support with Independents in New Hampshire.

What is for sure is that the Paul campaign is now starting it's ground game in the SuperTuesday states for February, so he's really going to keep at it for another 5 weeks no matter what happens next week. But I'm sure he'll better than what the mainstream media is predicting. If Reagan were alive today, he'd surely endorse Ron Paul.

Go to the C-Span homepage, look for the "search video" box, type in "Ron Paul" and I'm sure you'll find alot of RP stuff. Or any other candidate for that matter.


There is also another place where you can search the C-Span video archives.

Advanced Search : C-SPAN Video Library, Created by Cable. Offered as a Public Service.

You can find damn near everything he's ever said in his campaign there.

And since C-span archives every open House and Senate session, you can hear whatever he said there too for the last decade or so. And also many committee hearing there too. It's really easy if you know the date of the event you are looking for.

Thanks to C-Span, you do not have to rely on out of context quotes in a newspaper or 5 second soundbites on the TV news to hear what they really said.

And BTW, Ron Paul was featured on NBC's "Meet the Press" being interviewed by Tim Russert last weekend.

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Worth a try, what ?

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No, not really.

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