Could you give a few examples of Huckabee "voting his faith" and then explain why you disagree with those particular votes?

Or is your satement just an example of ignorant bigotry?

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well, remember if that is so, then the dems won't be happy with their same old same old freewheeling and free spending 20 hours a week congress...


and frankly the only change Edwards wants is what’s in your pocket...hes a phoofy, smarmy, ambulance chaser..nothing more.

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No individual can plan his own existence in their view.

So the state planners must arrogate to themselves the right to manipulate any sector of the economic system if the good of “society” or the “general welfare” is paramount.

Ipso- if the rights of the individual get in the way, the rights of the individual must be sublimated.

The Road to Serfdom
FA Hayek (interpretation)


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I don't think either candidate can bring the kind of change that people actually want. They will campaign on it, and they may even win the presidency on it, but in the end there will still be a huge corporate/political connection, there will still be irresponsible foreign policy decisions, and there will still be a growing gap between those who have and those who don't. Health care will still be for those who can afford it. And at least for the next two or three presidential terms there will be a global competition for diminishing resources across the planet, and there will continue to be a systematic destruction of the ecosystem.

Obama will probably be shot if it begins to look like he might actually win.

Andrew

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My problem with Huckabee is the hypocrisy. He says "let's abolish the IRS" yet his record doesn't back that up.

Huckabee and Obama play the "CHANGE" card, and it always works on that huge mainstream part of America that doesn't think and just goes with their gut.

Huckabee will change what, precisely? He thinks he can manage the wars better and has a proven big spending track record. So how can you eliminate the IRS if we keep spending trillions on fruitless wars and expansive gov't?

It's all easy smiles and charm with Huckabee, which is not enough. He's a Gomer. But then again, Americans like their Gomers who talk about change and unity and deliver neither.

If you read carefully, you will see that I was talking about Iowans, and the likelihood that the evangelicals (in the state of Iowa) may be the reason that hee took the state so handily. Just like, if the caucus had been held here in Idaho last night, Romney would have been the clear winner.

I have nothing against Huckabee, and my wife loves him for his stance on taxes. So no, I couldn't give you an example of Huckabee "voting his faith."

My statement is an example of what I think is a political reality here in the states, and probably in every democracy around the world. Care to tell me how I am in error?

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If common sense were common, we would all have it (including me).

Americans keep proving once more with the caucuses yesterday that they behave like teenaged girls: they're in love with the "new" and are fooled by easy smiles and words.

They keep voting for warmth and fuzziness over substance and I find that highly disturbing since we are in two simultaneous wars with third-world nations that never attacked us, while the debt is running out of control and the economy is pretty much entering a recession.

People should be demanding answers while all they really want is a fresh new face that blows more sunshine up their asses. Hey, I'm losing my job and my house while my taxes go to nation-building in other countries, but I like Obama/Huckabee because they make me feel good. Awwwww.

What crap.

Again, if these same people voted for Paul, you would be praising their wisdom.....

Matt

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first to your paragraph- its like biz's...they start with a small headcount, as it grows , exponentially so does the bureaucracy...and the special interests there in..its called life...sadly.

to your last statement. oh come on...you really really beleive that?..please.

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No individual can plan his own existence in their view.

So the state planners must arrogate to themselves the right to manipulate any sector of the economic system if the good of “society” or the “general welfare” is paramount.

Ipso- if the rights of the individual get in the way, the rights of the individual must be sublimated.

The Road to Serfdom
FA Hayek (interpretation)


Mortgage Backed Security survivor

There is nothing hypocritical about wanting to get rid of the IRS. He has been very consistant on this position. He wants to change to a consumption based tax system rather than taxing income and punishing production.

All the candidates are saying they want change tio varying degrees. Not just Huckabee and Obama.

However, Obama is "playing" the "CHANGE" card. At his speech in Iowa he literally scramed "CHANGE!" into the mic while flailing his arms in the air over a dozen times and had a huge sign hanging above him that said CHANGE is huge sparkly 8 foot tall capital letters. Screaming like there is something horribly wrong with America and electing him will make it change.

That's playing the change card.

Huckabee simply recognizes that change is inevitable and wants the Whitehouse to change to the Huckabee administration. And of course he is 100% correct. The administration will change because of term limits. And he said it in front of a sign that said "I Like Mike", which is a light-hearted nod to campaign nostolgia. (I Like Ike).

To compare that to Obama's Hitleresque grandstanding is simply ludicrous.

He want's to change to the so-called "Fair Tax", he wants to change public education, etc. Perhaps you should actually listen to him if you want to know what he will change.

The operation in Iraq was the wisest foreign policy decision in the history of the USA. And even if you are not intelligent enough to understand why, you still cannot criticize Huckabee for the war. He had nothing to do with it.

Not sure what you mean by "Gomer". Probably just an ad hominem attack in lieu of legitimate criticism. That's just the commie/pinko style that I've come to expect here from the extremist leftists.

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My mistake.

I was wondering exactly how much of his support is solely because of the evangelical vote. In this article Michael Medved notes that most evangelicals and born again Christians actually voted against Huckabee, but he did get a bigger percentage than the other candidates.

But he also had strong support from other groups.

He's predicted to get about 10% of the vote in New Hampshire. If he ends up getting 15-20% instead then we might be seeing the beginnings of a huckabee revolution. He didn't haver the huge cash to spend in N.H. but he had another trick up his sleeve to get publicity.

He's been jamming with New Hampshires most popular rock band, Mama Kicks.

Pride and Joy
Mustang Sally
Sweet Home Alabama
Jailhouse Rock

Also, here's Mike Huckabee's band, Capitol Offense, performing "More Than a Feeling," at the Surf Ballroom in Clear Lake, IA, with original Boston lead guitarist Barry Goudreau, who is a very popular musician in the New England.

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Clinton received a rousing cheer at the end of her 18-minute address, but Obama, the last speaker of the night, had the audience on its feet, waving placards during an earsplitting ovation.

Of course there are those who support the status quo

I'm not sure who the quote was aimed at but...

First "I am not a devote anthing"

The violence I would promote is to protect mine and my families space. (other than a general war that would require cooperative actions)

I may not understand or support anyones religious leanings but I respect them.

I am in complete agrement with the qouter in respect to the actions of our government.

QWhat makes you think they were not a threat. The UN security Council unasnimously agreed they were a threat, The US congress agreed they were a threat, the President agreed they were a threat.

Perhaps you should ask yourself what they know that you don't.

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I agree. It an hors douvre of rubbish to a whole feast of crap.

Its why everything fails eventually. Some sort of political entropy. And then we start again.

t was only half tongue in cheek..... If i was Obama i would have some damn good security people looking after me. It only takes one nutcase. Im not suggesting america is the same as it was thirty years ago, but there are elements still existing. (we see them on this board sometimes).

Andrew

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Ethanol is a fabulous solution to our energy dilemma because it will provide more fuel for us to drive around and look for food.

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