Does this guy know what he's doing? He basically gave a half-hearted effort everywhere, has made Florida his "last stand", expects to win there which would give him tonnes of delegates and a bounce going into Super Tuesday. But he's finishing 5th and 6th everywhere getting half the vote Ron Paul is getting.

And now he's not even leading in Florida. He's like 3rd or 4th.

Personally I can't stand the guy. Just another angry Republican neo-con warmonger who made the stupidest points ever last spring in the first couple of debates where Ron Paul gave it to him and included a reading list for the guy.

After he fails next week in Florida, I imagine Rudy'll stay in because he thinks he can probably do well in NY, NJ and the northeast. He might just stay in because there won't be one clear favorite going into February.

What sayest thou? Is this guy washed up already, or is he ahead of us?

He's washed up already, I don't think he's going to win Florida. Even if he is the only one campaigning here.

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There is an inherent flaw (probably several, but this one is huge) in his plan.

This year, Florida is being "punished" for having our primary "too early", and Florida will only have 1/2 the usual delegates to the GOP convention.

So even if Rudy's plan were viable, it's still not viable....

Matt

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As soon as I heard of Giuliani's strategy of not campaigning in any State before Florida, I thought it was a foolish plan. The polls seem to prove me right.

Matt Larson's point about Florida having half the number of delegates is also a bad thing for Giuliani. Just half the number to get for his late start.

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He wasted his money. I just read in the NY Times that he collected $60 million last year, and that from the third quarter on was spending over $4 million a month, and spent so much more in the fall time that he's got only $7 million left. He's got people being laid off and others working for free now.

Where did all that money go? Attack ads? He didn't spend nearly as much time in the other states as everyone else did, but he's still in financial trouble. That's so weird.

This whole 9/11 strategy was stupid from the get-go. Probably the most inefficient campaign. It was tough talk through the spring and then I think no one was interested in him anymore. If he was truly liked, he would've cruised at 10% or so in the other states, but he just got like 2% in SC.....which sucks.

I think he made a fatal mistake. He didn't actively campaign in the early primary states because he woudln't do well there, but instead has gamblecd on scoring big in Super-Duper Tuesday in places like NY and CA. However, the media - and public - have all but forgotten him as he gets little-to-no coverage resulting from the primaries. Whomever his campaign manager/strategist was, should be fired. Still, there's little point because I doubt his campaign has long to go. Still, if he has a good showing on 5 Feb, he might be a credible chance for VP to shore up the centrist/liberal wing of the GOP.

he's definitely going to be out after super tuesday. I'm from massachusetts and i seriously dont think he can win votes in the northeast. besides i agree with jason about the 9/11 thing.

did you know you can gamble on this stuff? haha.. i found this site and although it hasnt launched the political side yet, you can actually put money into who you think will win in elections. wow.

Giuliani was not doing terrible in New Hampshire and Michigan last year before he pulled out as I recall. He just decided to pull everything out of those early states and take a ton of losses. Not second place finishes but fifth and sixth place finishes in most cases. The people in those states gave him the middle finger for ignoring them and he deserved it. He got what he deserved.

Looks like Giuliani is done, the early results so far have had him in third place with 18%, and Huckabee behind him with 13% so he's probably done too. With Ron Paul in last with only 3% thus far. As for McCain & Romney, too close to call just yet. 33% for McCain, and 31% for Romney.

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Hah, 6,062 votes for Kucinich, and 10,507 votes for dead Fred.

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Guiliani showed perfectly on how not to run a national campaign. I can understand skipping Iowa, but its not like he didnt have another office to hold politically while campaigning.
Does he have any plan for super Tuesday? I would imagine though at this rate, hangover Wednesday will show him withdrawing.

I do not see anything else Giuliani can do now that he has definitely lost Florida. He is losing to McCain in California, New Jersey, and even NEW YORK! McCain gobbled up all his support by going out there and running a campaign that competed and won in states that were unlikely to support him (South Carolina).

I realise fully that his campaign doesnt have a shot now at all. I was simply wondering if he will bow out before S.T. or prolong the agony. Because if he stays in, he probably takes votes from McCain.

My money is on him dropping out sometimes this week and endorsing McCain before the weekend.

It wouldnt surprise me. Question is, would Guiliani have a place in a McCain cabinet? AG Anyone?

I could see him being AG. I also see Edwards being the same for a Democrat administration, or VP. Since only VP really is supposed to help you get elected and the only position generally announced before the election I think it is way too early to call.