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Re: McCain Leads in New York
It doesn't surprise me. Not only does McCain seem more viable at this time, but the NYC first responders--especially the firemen--are really looking to destroy him. That's been a non-secret secret for quite awhile. It's over many complaints such as:
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That's just the beginnings of it. And they get into more details and more actions and inactions of what they view as his negligences, cowardices, deceptivenesses, and heartlessnesses and here's what an opening taste of what's coming from the NYFD about why they hate Giuliani intensely. These NYFD videos are must sees for what is in store for him as they go through the long lists of pretty strong grievances and bitternesses: YouTube - Giuliani Gets Exposed As Fraud by Firefighters YouTube - FDNY union head speaks out about Rudy's 9/11 blunders The list of things he did and didn't do before, during and after is really quite awful.
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Re: McCain Leads in New York
Right, that's why Giuliani and his fire chief were walking the streets so much, they didn't have anywhere to go. That's fascinating.
It's so strange though. Here's a guy who presided over that New York makeover, the city got cleaner, crime went down, and he still couldn't use that to his advantage during the campaign. It's clear he kept hitting us over the head with the whole "as a survivor of 9/11" thing, but it seemed like we never got to know him beyond that. |
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I lost a cousin there and nearly two others and was at the site afterwards. That air nearly burnt my innards out, and yet he kept saying it was safe. Everyone knew it wasn't. You just had to use common sense and smell. Now tonnes of cleanup crews, including firemen, are ill and he didn't properly equip them to address that. He got the Bank of Nova Scotia gold out ASAP as his top priority, but didn't spend the time or desire to help the first responders to retrieve their mates dead or alive. And when he ordered the cleanup after verbally insulting them, he wanted it cleaned ASAP and the stuff dumped in the Fishkill landfill ASAP, the quest to properly filter for remains to the side, and taking precautions for the health of everyone doing so notwithstanding. The long list is quite incredible.
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Around 200,000 Irish immigrants served in the Union and Confederate armies in the American Civil War, often forming their own regiments and, at times, fought each other. At Fredericksburg, the Union’s Irish Brigade faced the Irish McMillan's Guards of Cobb's 24th Georgia entrenched in a sunken road behind a stone wall. Ordered to make a suicidal charge, it became one of the most famous events of the Civil War. The re-enactment portrayed in the movie Gods and Generals: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qVCxEupPag |
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Re: McCain Leads in New York
Indeed, most of the New Yorkers I spoke to before 9/11/01 felt he was a jerk, too. Civil liberties took a hit while he was in office, and that seems to be the direction he will head if he is elected president. I know this is crazy, and I think he has pretty much lost the race already, but if he gets the Republican nod, I will vote democrat no matter who the nominee is. And those of you who know me, know how serious that statement is.
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Re: McCain Leads in New York
Everyone seemed to like Giuliani except for the people who live in New York. That should tell you something.
"Hey look at me! I was mayor when my city got bombed!" That doesn't tell us anything. Well Rudy, the next time you PREVENT a 9/11 from happening let me know and we can talk about you being president. |
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Is our children learning? -George W. Bush "I think—tide turning—see, as I remember—I was raised in the desert, but tides kind of—it's easy to see a tide turn—did I say those words?"—Washington, D.C., June 14, 2006 "[T]he illiteracy level of our children are appalling."—Washington, D.C., Jan. 23, 2004 |
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Re: McCain Leads in New York
Mccain is a republicrat :P Who cares
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I'm sure this will come as a news flash to you, but none of the candidates prevented a 9/11. Using your special little brand of logic, none of the candidates are qualified...
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