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Re: How will Hillary re-invent herself now?
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It's too late for Hillary to re-invent herself again. It's all down to bullying now. If the American people aren't going to vote them in, they're going to need to force their way in. 1) Bully the DNC to seat delegates from FLA and MI 2) Bully the Superdelegates with whatever Clinton influence they can exert and whatever Clinton favors they can muster. I don't care what you see in regard to campaign strategy in the remaining states, the 2 items above are what they are going to be working on the hardest (behind the scenes) from here on out. Time for Tanya Harding tactics.... the Clinton's aren't above it.
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Re: How will Hillary re-invent herself now?
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She is very thoroughly hated among ALL parties. Of course more conservatives despise her. But many LIBERALS do TOO. Her fakey personality is very transparent and doesn't sell well with ANYBODY. Her false confident arrogance doesn't help either. I'm not in the least bit worried about having another clinton in the whitehouse. It's not going to happen. |
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I think they know that so won't use them. Of course I COULD be wrong In either case, I'm sure obama will come out on top. |
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Re: How will Hillary re-invent herself now?
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Re: How will Hillary re-invent herself now?
Reinvent herself?
She is part of American life, a celebrity, a type. Decades from now, the mere word "Hillary" will conjure up a whole set of characteristics and images: the upper-middle-class patronzing busybody matron-from-hell who always knows best, sneers politely at the unwashed masses and tells everyone else how to think, believe, respond, and (above all) spend their money. That is combined with the brilliant and ambitious pampered Wellesley feminist, filled with self-pity and righteous rage. Those two stereotypes come to life in her. They are set in stone. She did the crying shtick once a few weeks ago and it worked - once. That's it. There are no more changes possible. Any other attempts will be met with understandable laughter. If she tries to cry again (and it's only a try) even her devoted fans might step out for a smoke.
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Re: How will Hillary re-invent herself now?
good points from all sides.
This is a real popcorn invent since my party imploded now lets see the other one fight it out ![]() I hope it stays civil. Not on Obamas part i think he isnt like the Clinton machine. I wonder if she goes negative or if she will do like lastboyscout suggests and try to steal an election through other means. I really hope she would just go negative and not test the dems strange way of elections with super delegates etc. Its not my fight but kinda hope obama over hillary. Since we know nothing of him and lots about hillary he has to do a better job ![]()
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Re: How will Hillary re-invent herself now?
I think thats a bit harsh. She'd be a good president however Obama is better and would get re-elected in '12.
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Re: How will Hillary re-invent herself now?
Might as well he has no record to run on... He offers HOPE AND CHANGE :P
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I said Conservative not necessarly Republican or Democrat. Liberals are in both of those parties.
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There are plenty of moderate Democrats, many elected in 2006. Where are they? The Dems who run things have no time for their moderate fellow Dems, who often actually had jobs and even ran a business. If they were in charge, I would think quite differently. But they are not.
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In that vein, that's who Hillary is going to court. She polls well with the elderly, moderates and business types. I notice you mentioned you feel she is bad for business but business often feels otherwise and hence her big donors and support from that sector. To quote my own father and friends who operate wealthy corporations "We all made money under Bill." Governor Rendell is a good Clinton friend in my state and follows much of the same style and hence he is very popular. They were very good at creating 'two-for's between business and ordinary joes where each made out in a strategem as well as not lopsiding business so that others lose out to a few well connected firms looking to unduly monopolise and gorge themselves. This is even true in the health care area, where many businesses are sick to death of being the actual financier of national health care coverage via their employee benefits which in turn depletes their corporate assets and increases their costs and drives up their prices. Her touting of health care is also targeted to elderly voters, especially where it draws the distinction that her plan would cover everyone as opposed to Obama's. Hillary will do what she did to win twice in NY--work hard. She will focus on groundpounding PA and OH where there is a large elderly and more moderate and Blue Dog population with huge delegate numbers as a prize. The demographics and the numbers game support that strategy, it is the only viable hand she has to play, and I really don't think she would personally want to play another given her outlooks and comfort zones.
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Re: How will Hillary re-invent herself now?
Obere would hillary ever pick Rendell to run with. He has alot of baggage
![]() Im sure he would be on her list since he is so loyal
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I think her time is passed, Obama has momentum, and the money is pouring into his campaign, he has energized youth like no candidate has done for decades, and she is working from a disadvantage, unable to match his TV buys. He goes into the big state primaries as the well funded front runner, and she is yesterdays news. Her staff shakeup screams "LOSER", and even though she has decided to pay all her staff rather than asking senior people to go without pay, the damage has already been done. Someone has to lose, and it looks like that's Hillary this time.
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