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Re: Obama's Incredible Denial Concerning His Pastor
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Re: Obama's Incredible Denial Concerning His Pastor
American politics are an absolute joke and we deserve what we get. We had seven years of the conservative, white, male, mainstream Christian leadership. And what did it reap us? A failed war in Iraq. An economic crisis. A broken educational system. And
So we're going to take a man who has some *excellent* ideas for solving these issues and addressing them. And we're going to disregard him because his pastor made UNDER TEN controversial, even call them racist, sermons over the course of TWO DECADES. My question to people who claimed to "used to support" Obama. Why did you support him? Did you support him because you thought he would be a good President. Or did you just support him because you thought he'd be the kind of Black man who would pretend that racism doesn't exist? Were you hoping he'd make you feel better about your racially homogenous world by voting for him? Then fine. Your support isn't really necessary. I support Barack Obama because I think he has the best plans to bring the country out of the current funk that it is in. If he can't win on those merits. And if John McCain CAN win merely because he's white, old a man and doesn't cause people to have to do or think in any new ways, then the continuatoin of the Bush failures is what this country will reap and we will deserve it. This is. ridiculous.
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Yesterday, John McCain actually said that if he’s president he’ll take on, and I quote, 'the old boys’ network in Washington.' I’m not making this up. This is somebody been in Congress for 26 years, who put seven of the most powerful Washington lobbyists in charge of his campaign. And now he tells us that he’s the one who’s gonna take on the old boys' network,” he said. “In the McCain campaign that’s called a staff meeting!- Obama, 9/17/2008 |
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Frankly, I don't see how Obama can spin this thing away. He's already claimed he didn't know that Wright was preaching racial diatribes, which makes him either a dolt or a liar. The smart thing to do would have been to claim that he slept through those 20 years of sermons, eh?
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Who does vote for these dishonest shitheads? Who among us can be happy and proud of having all this innocent blood on our hands? Who are these swine? These flag-sucking half-wits who get fleeced and fooled by stupid little rich kids like George Bush? --Hunter S. Thompson |
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Who does vote for these dishonest shitheads? Who among us can be happy and proud of having all this innocent blood on our hands? Who are these swine? These flag-sucking half-wits who get fleeced and fooled by stupid little rich kids like George Bush? --Hunter S. Thompson |
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But Pogo? I didn't say he was perfect. I said that if THIS issue destroys him than America deserves 4 more years of failed politics and policies. Congrats!
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Yesterday, John McCain actually said that if he’s president he’ll take on, and I quote, 'the old boys’ network in Washington.' I’m not making this up. This is somebody been in Congress for 26 years, who put seven of the most powerful Washington lobbyists in charge of his campaign. And now he tells us that he’s the one who’s gonna take on the old boys' network,” he said. “In the McCain campaign that’s called a staff meeting!- Obama, 9/17/2008 |
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So you see, he's nothing more than a feel-good candidate, at a time when we're desperately in need of genuine leadership.
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Who does vote for these dishonest shitheads? Who among us can be happy and proud of having all this innocent blood on our hands? Who are these swine? These flag-sucking half-wits who get fleeced and fooled by stupid little rich kids like George Bush? --Hunter S. Thompson |
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Besides his race and his ability to smooth talk the masses what does he actually bring to the table when it comes to merit? |
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1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race 2 : racial prejudice or discrimination So when you can fit my statements into that definition let me know. Quote:
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But all you want to do is talk about the statements of a man who isn't running for President, because you can't really beat Obama on the substance.
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Yesterday, John McCain actually said that if he’s president he’ll take on, and I quote, 'the old boys’ network in Washington.' I’m not making this up. This is somebody been in Congress for 26 years, who put seven of the most powerful Washington lobbyists in charge of his campaign. And now he tells us that he’s the one who’s gonna take on the old boys' network,” he said. “In the McCain campaign that’s called a staff meeting!- Obama, 9/17/2008 |
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This alone proves that he does not live up to his own stated ideology which is damning against him and his supporters. The fact is Obama has no substance; he is unproven and unseasoned; we can only go on his words which is a negative for him when he illustrates that his beliefs very likely do not match his words. |
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That sounds reasonable, but it is not a fair comparison. It is one thing to deal with anonymous racists on an internet forum. However, when you share communion with a racist every Sunday, when you have that same racist marry you and your angry bitter wife, when that racist baptizes your children, when that same racist becomes your campaign's spiritual adviser and an inspiration for your writings, well, that is a far different situation.
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Trinity United is a branch of the United Church of Christ, which is a VASTLY majority white denomination. How can I "prove" that. Can you "prove" that Catholics tend to be mostly white in America? I don't understand what you want me to prove here. Quote:
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Yesterday, John McCain actually said that if he’s president he’ll take on, and I quote, 'the old boys’ network in Washington.' I’m not making this up. This is somebody been in Congress for 26 years, who put seven of the most powerful Washington lobbyists in charge of his campaign. And now he tells us that he’s the one who’s gonna take on the old boys' network,” he said. “In the McCain campaign that’s called a staff meeting!- Obama, 9/17/2008 |
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"We are an African people, and remain “true to our native land,” the mother continent, the cradle of civilization." Quote:
1. Commitment to God 2. Commitment to the Black Community 3. Commitment to the Black Family 4. Dedication to the Pursuit of Education 5. Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence 6. Adherence to the Black Work Ethic 7. Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect 8. Disavowal of the Pursuit of “Middleclassness” 9. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills available to the Black Community 10. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for Strengthening and Supporting Black Institutions 11. Pledge allegiance to all Black leadership who espouse and embrace the Black Value System 12. Personal commitment to embracement of the Black Value System. Quote:
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Re: Obama's Incredible Denial Concerning His Pastor
The media now realizes that the senator will win the presidency, that were not paying attention to the movement of change, until it have taken hold,once the plan of action went into effect, movements are usually unstoppable. so the resisters of change usually do the same old, same old, try to behead the leader, eventhough the movement transcends the leader.
They believe when the leader is beheaded the diarrhea of change will stop, it must be stopped prior to an action plan implementation, once that take root it will continue to hemmorrhage. Remember Jesus is the first change agent, and they used one of his diciples to stop him, and others denied him. Yet, there gospels in the new testement is what many of use follow today. Have faith, the Senator is annointed and cannot be stopped until his journey is fulfilled, until he stands on the mountain top. We will live the dream, fear not. Hannity must dig two holes, the one he wants the senator to fall in, and the one he will fall in. Due to his fear of change. One must remember that America was build to be governed by the amount of melanin in one's blood, and the senata at present have too much, hence the resistance of change for this new president, there is fear that the white house may have to be repainted. That was the error back then. |
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Re: Obama's Incredible Denial Concerning His Pastor
Obama's answer to the latest phase of the smear campaign:
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It may help to point out that Martin Luther King was once vilified by the same sector of the American electorate that is now denouncing Obama for his ties to Rev. Wright. In an interview on the Jim Lehrer News Hour on Jan 18, 2000, Michael Eric Dyson, the author of a book on MLK titled “I May Not Get There With You: The True Martin Luther King” argued that we have done MLK a disservice by “sanitizing” his image in our history books. Here’s the final comment from the interview: “King’s admirers want to protect King from the assertion that he was an unpatriotic American. And in the minds of many Americans, if you are a radical democrat or a socialist, you are automatically a Communist. And if you are a Communist, then therefore you are an anti- American person and a person who is not a patriot. But nothing is further from the truth. But King's friends, in attempting to shield him, have really left him more vulnerable to rebuff, and have also tried to really reproduce this image of King as this perfect icon of American patriotism by neglecting his radical viewpoints, his embrace of democratic socialism, his insistence that maybe race is a big thing, but class is even a huger dimension and a huger obstacle to be overcome for black people and other poor people to realize economic equality in America. So I think his friends have done him a great disservice as well.” What we need to say to the hate speechers from all sides: We shall overcome. |
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