Of course all of us intelligent people recognize that you are commiting a categorical error in logic if you argue from a specific premise (Trinity United) towards a general conclusion (United Church of Christ).

(e.g. "Trucks are motor vehicles, and the vast majority of motor vehicles on the road are cars, therefore trucks are cars.)

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We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

No - it's definitely not a non-story.

Rasmussen reports that Obama has already been hurt, and it is only a few days since the story broke.

Rasmussen Reports™: The most comprehensive public opinion coverage ever provided for a presidential election.

There is still some time to fix the damage, but not much. The fascinating question is: how is it possible that the Obama campaign ignored this? Did they really think it would never explode into a major story?

The stupidity of politicans is a bottomless pit.

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Stick deep; in his royalty of nature
Reigns that which would be fear'd: 'tis much he dares;
And, to that dauntless temper of his mind,
He hath a wisdom that doth guide his valour
To act in safety."

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Somehow I missed all of the above but as the maverick I am I too have a comment.

As Catholic and a kid I sat in church and listened to the pastor say in effect my mother along with all protestents could not go the heaven.

As an adult I understand the present Pope has basically said the same thing.

The point is; as adults your need to accept this kind of bullshit equates to your maturity level or lack of such in your decision making capabilities.

We IMO are now seeing the professional whores at work (especially the Clinton crowd) trying to discredit Obama because of his membership in a particular church with a particular pastor. Should the entire Catholic congregation leave the church because of the proclivity of too many priests
to have homosexual unions with other homosexuals or with children. The protestants as well are not free of this problem.

Had Obama's pastor finished his sentence with the words Administration not America I would have agreed with him. Was he right about our countries actions bringing on 9-11. Probably !

Well, in any event Obama voices the need for change and he is the only one not tainted with either an appetite or a vote for war. His personal understanding of the effects of both side of the economic function put him ahead of his competitors regardless of their mud slinging efforts.

I posted a lengthy piece titled "The great Irish Famine",There is a great deal to be learned from its contents in respect to the road we are traveling.
At the end of that road a once powerful nation (as all such empires have wound up) have either been destroyed or diminished in world standing.

Is this too to be our lot. ?

Clean out the "whorehouse" !

The problem with this sort of paranoid comment, however, is that the vast majority of Americans are disgusted, outraged and stunned when they hear that Americans are to blame for 9/11 rather than the terrorists, or that Pearl Harbor was an American plot, or that AIDS is an American plot, or that God should damn America.

There are so many examples of succulent paranoid lunacy in the statements made by Obama's mentor and "spiritual advisor" that there is literally a menu from which to choose.

There may be a few who will agree with some or all of this madness, but the vast majority do not - and never will. Obama's speech today did not succeed in putting distance between himself and Wright. If he doesn't draw a clear and distinct line between himself and his mentor, he is toast.

Squizz, actually.

Maybe I put the number down wrong... they're presets in my car.

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When they come a wull staun ma groon
Staun ma groon al nae be afraid
Thoughts awe hame tak awa ma fear
Sweat an bluid hide ma veil awe tears

FWIW, Obama's speech: Breitbart.tv » Full-Length Speech: Obama Addresses Race in America, Reverend Wright

I agree--Obamas speech left out lots of things that need to be questioned.

For instance:

If you're a man who claims to want to bring this country together, white & black, "transending the race issue." Why on earth would you be a member of this church?

I don't think he'll be able to skirt this question. Obama can't have it both ways. He has to walk the talk, not just talk the talk.

This whole Pastor situation does not change my opinion about Obama.

Show me a clip, quote, interview, et. al where Obama has taken an extreme or hateful or racist position.

Let's be real for a second. I have no idea who YOU are. But whoever YOU are, whenever you are in like company (be YOU white or black or brown or gay or straight or conservative or liberal) you are going to have heard or said comments that you would otherwise NEVER say in "polite company" as it were.

Who here hasn't ever told or passed on a joke that you wouldn't be caught dead telling in "polite company"? He who has not sinned, please, cast the first stone.

The real question is simply IS OBAMA A RACIST? And I do not believe that he is. I believe that he is a uniter NOT a divider. That has been and continues to be a centerpiece message in his campaign. Pastor Wright isn't running for office last time I checked.

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Just keep grasping at straws, neocons. Your pathetic attempt to sway free thinkers away from an honest and honorable man will only encourage divisiveness. Obama WILL be the next President and there's nothing you can do about it. You can write George W Bush and thank him.

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Thank you for the link.

From my POV, his straight forward comments have confirmed my support for this fine gentleman.

I'm sure there will be many that won't bother to view it, but will be no less vitriolic in condemming it. Their loss, Amercia's gain.

Obama has presented himself as a uniter, and he has done a good job until very recently in presenting himself that way.

But this issue is painful and ugly and optentially explosive. Wright is his mentor and his guide and his spiritual advisor. Obama himself has made his faith a significant part of his campaign. The connection with Wright is there - it is up to Obama himself to end it.

Wright is not just an eccentric who goes too far. He is a true fanatic. Obama MUST denounce him. Or else he is toast.

He is running for president of the entire nation, not a small group. He must at least make an attempt at understanding the viewpoint of others. He failed to do so in his speech. He attempted to make an analogy with Ferraro, and then made references to "angry" whites who voted for Reagan. That was an attempt at making a comparison with Wright - but the result was a startling failure. I watched the speech with a group of people, and when he made those comments, a lot of heads were shaking in bewilderment.

Obama will have to win over at least a few of these voters if he is going to win. He has shown no understanding of moderate conservatives in his recent comments. He makes anti-business references at a time of recession and makes comments about angry Reagan voters. This is not helpful or smart.

Have you watched his speech? It sure doesn't sound like it. He addressed most, if not all of your digs. On what planet would "angry Reagan voters" support him anyway?

I watched all of it.

As for the Reagan voters - some are up for grabs. Some people voted for Bill Clinton in 1996 who voted for Reagan in 1980 and especially in 1984.

Anyone who wins the White House has to appeal to at least a small portion of moderates and conservatives. They are the swing vote. Until now, Obama has had more appeal among that population than Hillary Clinton. That appeal is rapidly dwindling. He was attempting to reach out to moderates in this speech. He did not succeed.

He certainly didn't say anything shocking - but he made it clear that he has no understanding of why people voted for Reagan. Bill Clinton did understand that. I did not like most of Clinton's policies, but he does have some understanding of conservatives. Obama thinks he does - but he doesn't.

There is no need to be defensive about Obama. His campaign blew it with this whole Wright mess, and they have to take responsibility. That is the only way to come out of this. It is still possible. They assumed it would not hurt him. They took a huge chance - and they blew it. Now they have to change things. This is no time for self-pity and self-righteousness. Wright's speeches are absolutely outrageous - filled with rage and hatred and paranoia. There is no point in blaming others: that only adds to the mess.

Well, lets take a look-see.
Back in 2006 while speaking at Howard university he was quoted: “ America is still the No. 1 killer in the world, We believe in white supremacy and black inferiority and believe it more than we believe in God.”
We care nothing about human life if the end justifies the means. . . .”
Concluding, Mr. Wright said: “We started the AIDS virus . . . We are only able to maintain our level of living by making sure that Third World people live in grinding poverty. . . .”
Source: OneNewsNow.com - Your News Right Now
And: Urban Legends Reference Pages: Joe Wright Letter

Sounds the same to me.I don’t know man, 20 years, -his entire adult life.
This type of racism in black churches is more common then most people think. The Rev. Jessie Jacksons‘, Rev. Al Sharptons’ and others made a million bucks doing this sh_t.



Barak Hussain Obama himself was a black activist.I sang at a black church when I was a teenager, they said white people more then Jesus.
You cannot simply give example of a normal church with these or others like them simply because it fits your argument.That’s not the case here. He’s Barack Hussein Obamas’ spiritual advisor and mentor, not his uncle.
For 20 years Barack Hussein Obama worked together on civil right misconceptions.Your reasoning by comparison. Don’t underestimate our abilities for rationalization and insight, We have liberals outnumbered 10 to 1 on that one.Well, his wife conveys the same mentality, he wont recite the pledge of allegiance or even place his hand on his heart to honor our country and the saints whose blood we live off of.

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Frankly sir, despite your continued rhetoric to the contrary, I'll pass on your "informed analysis" as the final word, just as I did when people were saying "John McCain is done, stick a fork in him." Prognosticators have a bad habit of being quite wrong, but it never seems to stop them from running their pieholes. Nor do I put much stock in those momentary snapshots, AKA polls. There's only one poll that counts and it comes this November.