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Old 03-18-2008
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Re: Obama's Incredible Denial Concerning His Pastor

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Frankly sir, despite your continued rhetoric to the contrary, I'll pass on your "informed analysis" as the final word, just as I did when people were saying "John McCain is done, stick a fork in him." Prognosticators have a bad habit of being quite wrong, but it never seems to stop them from running their pieholes. Nor do I put much stock in those momentary snapshots, AKA polls. There's only one poll that counts and it comes this November.
i have never claimed to be entirely correct about any political issue. I reponded to your comment in good faith and you chose not to respond in the same way. That is your choice.
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Just keep grasping at straws, neocons. Your pathetic attempt to sway free thinkers away from an honest and honorable man will only encourage divisiveness. Obama WILL be the next President and there's nothing you can do about it. You can write George W Bush and thank him.
You sure are gonna look the fool if he isn't elected.
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Re: Obama's Incredible Denial Concerning His Pastor

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i have never claimed to be entirely correct about any political issue. I reponded to your comment in good faith and you chose not to respond in the same way. That is your choice.
Must be the "compassionate conservative" version of "good faith." Hence, barely recognizable.
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Re: Obama's Incredible Denial Concerning His Pastor

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Just keep grasping at straws, neocons. Your pathetic attempt to sway free thinkers away from an honest and honorable man will only encourage divisiveness. Obama WILL be the next President and there's nothing you can do about it. You can write George W Bush and thank him.
Free thinkers would be able to see without allegiance to a political party or what they believe to be an ideology.
I knew he was a racist Muslim fuck and I assure you, only visors and a closed mind could see different.
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Re: Obama's Incredible Denial Concerning His Pastor

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I knew he was a racist Muslim fuck and I assure you
What does that make you?
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Free thinkers would be able to see without allegiance to a political party or what they believe to be an ideology.
Ralph Nader supporter, eh? The holier than thou candidate back like a mosquito, pestering the plebs. How is the Ghey Party these days?

It's a coin toss for me between McCain and Obama. I'm still studying them both. I like them both, but McCain is diminishing a bit now from what I see. So am I cool enough to be a free thinker according to your Ralph Nader secret decoder ring?

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I knew he was a racist Muslim fuck and I assure you, only visors and a closed mind could see different.
-irony alarms going off worldwide-

So since he's not racist or a 'muslim fuck,' it would appear you have cows@!% for brains. Give my best to Ralph at your next scientology convention
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Just keep grasping at straws, neocons. Your pathetic attempt to sway free thinkers away from an honest and honorable man will only encourage divisiveness. Obama WILL be the next President and there's nothing you can do about it. You can write George W Bush and thank him.
Free thinkers would be able to see without allegiance to a political party or what they believe to be an ideology.
I knew he was a racist Muslim f_ck.
What does that make you?
Okay, I can see were gonna need an example here.

If someone had an assembly and cursed, yelled, screamed and ranted about how awful black people are, would you agree this to be a racist f_ck???

Okay, if someone is denying to be Muslim yet was raised in a Muslim family:



, attended an Islamic school, then attends a more accreditive school that was Catholic yet still took off once a week for Islamic studies (Wait, I‘m not finished yet.), both his father and step father were radical muslims and his only other role models were his Atheist mother and this racist rev. Would you agree this person to be a muslim f_ck???

Now put them together.
He’s a racist muslim f_ck…
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Re: Obama's Incredible Denial Concerning His Pastor

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I knew he was a racist Muslim fuck and I assure you, only visors and a closed mind could see different.
What does being "Muslim" (though this isn't true and you know it) have to do with your labeling of him as a 'racist'? It's almost as if you were gratuitously inserting erroneous ethnic information about someone because you believe that simply the fact of that ethnicity paints him in a bad light.

Damn, I think there's a word for that, but I just can't put my finger on it. Irony? No, that isn't it. Maybe it's something about people in glass houses...? Nah. Ah well, I'm sure people probably know exactly what I'm talking about.
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I knew he was a racist Muslim fuck and I assure you, only visors and a closed mind could see different.
Hi Kettle, my name is Pot. By the way, you are black.
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Hank, you really need to work on not being a redneck dickhead.
Uh-Oh...........you're bound to get some demerits for that one.
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Just keep grasping at straws, neocons. Your pathetic attempt to sway free thinkers away from an honest and honorable man will only encourage divisiveness. Obama WILL be the next President and there's nothing you can do about it. You can write George W Bush and thank him.

Excuse me.

He admitted in his speech that he wasn't being honest.

Friday he said he never heard Rev. Wright say those things and today he admits he did.

I'm sorry, but I've had enough of lying politicians.

He may be a gentleman in your eyes but what I see is a guy trying win an election. He was born color-blind and raised to be color-blind but because of his need to immerse himself in "The Black Experience" his view of the world has been twisted and warped.

I tried for years to teach my nephew, who's father was Somali and left him when he was a baby like Obama's father did, to stay away from the black experience and stop thinking in terms of race all of the time. He chose not to take my advice. His mother taught him to hate whites. I discovered this the first time we went to a basketball game and he was ashamed to be seen with me, that the type of friends he hung with would give him a hard time for being with a white Uncle.

As long as blacks insist on drudging up slavery they will always be slaves at heart. Segregation only exists in their minds these days.

Obama see's this country differently from most of us. He's see's black communities and white communities. Black America and White America. Instead of the Black Experience he needs to understand the American Experience and why it works. He needs to learn why this country was at one time called a "Melting-Pot". The greatest road-block to change is a refusal to move on and leave old ways behind. Here in America we can do that if we choose.

It won't take electing a Black President to bring the change he wants. All it takes is for people to stop blaming others for the past. Turn the other cheek, and forgive. Stop pointing fingers. People are just people. Their skin color should make no difference.
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Re: Obama's Incredible Denial Concerning His Pastor

William Ayers - Pentagon Bomber
Jeremiah Wright - America Hating racist
Tony Rezko - corrupt influence peddler

These are Obama's close friends and spiritual advisers. He is unfit to serve as President. The man is a phony liar that will say anything to get elected. I'd vote for Hillary over him any day.....
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Old 03-19-2008
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Still, one is left to wonder what is meant by being true to Africa.
I'd seriously doubt its literal. I would interpret it as symbolic - especially since he is coming from a religious perspective.

It would most likjely be related to pride, indentity etc.

I can see that would piss off a few whites, but oftentimes one of the ways a disadvantaged/downtrodden/dsenfranchised group can maintain a sense of pride in themselves is by reaching back to their symbolic roots.

I'd seriously doubt he hates America - although like many churchmen in mainstream churches he may be very critical of the 'dog eat dog' ideology of the nation.

And refusing to be blinded by patriotism is hardly a bad thing.
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I'd seriously doubt its literal. I would interpret it as symbolic - especially since he is coming from a religious perspective.

It would most likjely be related to pride, indentity etc.
I would call this a strawman; did you actually visit the website of his church Daisym?

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And refusing to be blinded by patriotism is hardly a bad thing.
It is when you run for the leadership of Nation A but are loyal to Continent B!
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wow, really? You say you take an outsiders point of view than begin to make judgments based on what? Frankly, I think you may need to live here, before making sweeping statements like these.
are you disputing any of what I said re your nation WRT health, welfare, education, justice etc?

Its all pretty common knowledge around the globe.


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And, I don't think you have the faintest idea what the black experience in this country is and how it got where it got.
I 'd be interested in anything you can provide which indicates that black people in the US are definitely NOT suffering fromthe legacy of institutionalised racism.

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as to the rest, par for the course and doesn't have much to do with the topic, and you think wright has a point and is "reasonable", imagine my surprise.
I'm surprised you're surprised. After all, haven't you pegged me as a commie pinko greenie treehugger who believes in land rights for gay whales?
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