If Obama says he never heard what Rev. Wright said I can assume that many of the flock he sits with every week had heard it and agreed with it.

Many of the same flock that were running up and patting the Rev. on the back when he was doing his 'Kill Whitey' rant were in the parish.

They looked like they agreed with the Rev.

Some of them were jumping up and down relishing in the amazingly racist statements they were hearing.

Can Obama tell me that if he doesn't agree with these types of statements how come he felt so comfortable sitting with people who do week after week for the last 6 years?

I'm sure their thoughts about the subject came up in private conversations. I would feel extremely uncomfortable sitting with a bunch of racist hate-mongers.

I would feel uncomfortable sitting with people who can't accept people for what they are regardless of their skin color.


Obama claims innocence. He claims he never heard of such a thing being mentioned in his church before he started his Presidential run. He's ether really stupid, extremely gullible, or he was asleep every moment he was at church.

Or he's as big a liar as Hillary is.

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Africa is neither a country nor a nation.

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This goes beyond the pastor; look at the "Black Value System" of Barack's church not to mention the "about us" section on the church's website. This church openly teaches its congregation that ONLY black leadership is worthy of allegiance and that the black community is the focus of the church's dedication to society.

To make matters worse the church declares its loyalty not to America but to Africa! This church made no secret of its black nationalist stance and afrocentrism. Are we to believe that Obama knew nothing about all of this?

Regardless of what the pastor said why would a man of the people willingly align himself with an obvious racialist church? Are we to honestly believe that Obama knew nothing of the church mission statements or the doctrines of the TUCC? I do not think so folks...

I loathe McCain even more than I loathe Obama but the fact that McCain is a delusional nut does not negate Obama's willing affiliation with a racial nationalist church loyal to Africa first and foremost.

Second, where does your article say that the pastor was "booted off?" How do we know he did not resign of his own accord? Better yet what was this obvious black nationalist doing on one of Obama's campaign committees or whatever you call them anyway?

I think PramJockey's point is that there shouldn't be a double-standard. If people are going to chastise Obama for his affiliations with religious figures, then they must chastise McCain for the same things. If Obama's affiliation with a preacher (that makes reprehensible comments) makes Obama reprehensible by association, then McCain's association with a preacher (that makes reprehensible comments) makes McCain reprehensible by association.

The more reasonable solution, in my opinion, is that neither should be chastised for their religious associations unless they suggest that they will run this country as a theocracy.

But if you disagree with Obama's loyalty to his church, that's your business.

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So, once again, what country is that?

Basic geography: Africa is a continent. It's a remarkably large continent, made up of many different nations. It is remarkably diverse.

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1) Where is the RNC being blamed for Obama's relationship with the pastor?

2) My people? Which are those? I'm still not a Democrat. I've been an independent for more than 15 years.

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Ding!

Two cookies for RFK.

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ahh, such liberal tolerance from Obama's "spiritual advisor".....

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No argument or talking points of substance triggers a default switch of topic to Bush. next..........

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After I watched it the term tounge-tied came to mind. His eyes were rolling and shifting from side to side as he struggled to compose a sentence that would free him of sharing in the reverend's racism , yet not burn any bridges with his "church of the mother land". This is not a man who is ready to lead a nation.

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To dispell rumors that he was a Muslim, Obama said he was a member of the Trinity United Church of Christ for 15 years.

Here is a link to their web page.

http://www.tucc.org/about.htm

This church has a decidedly anti-American and racist bent.

So as a member of this church for 15 years. Obama has a "non-negotiable COMMITMENT TO AFRICA"! The problem with that is that Africa is a foreign land. His commitment should be to the USA.

It's leader claimed that the U.S. government invented HIV to commit genocide against Africans. He says God damn America, and says the 911 attacks were payback for racist U.S. foreign policy.

This is the guy who Obama calls his "spiritual mentor"!

To me this church just sounds like the Xtian counterpart to Farrakhan's Nation of Islam. They preach the same hate.

And now Obama says he's been a member for 20 years when less that a year ago he said he was a member for 15 years. Which is it... 15 or 20? Why the contradiction?

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His goose is cooked....so this changes (no pun intended...but I wish there was!) everything...Hillary and McCain...hmm

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The government cannot give without first taking.

The good Rev. doesn't know that.

He thinks Jews tricked Samson into giving away the secret of his strength.

Obama's pastor needs to open an Atlas as well as a Bible and read it.

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I agree and said so....so let the games begin....but they won't, the media is silent and it appears the double standard is being employed.

I am reminded of the scene in Lawrence of Arabia, where in Lawrence leads the arabs to take and sack Aqaba from the turks, but there is no gold as Lawrence had promised tayi if he joined him.......sherif Tayi played by anthony quinn upon discovering such tells sherif Ali ( omar shariff) his sppter. and true believer;

“he said there was gold here, there is no gold, he is not perfect”...

Obama is just another politician.

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