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Old 03-17-2008
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Thus Spoke Barack!

Barack is a great speaker. He touches one's heart directly. You can feel the sincerity, the deep affection he feels for his country. He does not wear the mask that Clinton and McCain wear. Enjoy the greatness.

"You see, the challenges we face will not be solved with one meeting in one night. Change will not come if we wait for some other person or some other time.

We are the ones we've been waiting for. We are the change that we seek. We are the hope of those boys who have little; who've been told that they cannot have what they dream; that they cannot be what they imagine.

Yes they can.

We are the hope of the father who goes to work before dawn and lies awake with doubts that tell him he cannot give his children the same opportunities that someone gave him.

Yes he can.

We are the hope of the woman who hears that her city will not be rebuilt; that she cannot reclaim the life that was swept away in a terrible storm.

Yes she can.

We are the hope of the future; the answer to the cynics who tell us our house must stand divided; that we cannot come together; that we cannot remake this world as it should be.

Because we know what we have seen and what we believe - that what began as a whisper has now swelled to a chorus that cannot be ignored; that will not be deterred; that will ring out across this land as a hymn that will heal this nation, repair this world, and make this time different than all the rest - Yes. We. Can."


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February 05, 2008
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Old 03-17-2008
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Re: Thus Spoke Barack!

Les Brown is a much better public speaker than Barack Obama and he had more experience as a legislator than Senator Obama.

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(Les Brown served as a) "...community activist to community leader; from political commentator to three-term legislator..."
Les Brown :: Motivational Speaker, Best Selling Author, Entrepreneur, Radio & Television Celebrity, Philanthropist

Maybe we could get all the motivational speakers in the country to run for President and see which one is the most inspirational.
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Les Brown is a much better public speaker than Barack Obama and he had more experience as a legislator than Senator Obama.



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Maybe we could get all the motivational speakers in the country to run for President and see which one is the most inspirational.
Isn't it better than electing a liar, killer-of-4000+-young-man's successor? A warmonger?
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Re: Thus Spoke Barack!

If he's such a great speaker why was he struggling so hard to compose sentences when explaining his preacher predicament? You mean he can deliver a prepared speech, don't you? Yeah he does pretty good at that.
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I'm confused....so a persons orating skills is what makes them a great President?
In that case Sherrif - I assume you believe Ronald Reagan, one of America's best speaking Presidents is therefore one of America's best Presidents?...if not then why would you judge Obama by his speaking ability?
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Re: Thus Spoke Barack!

If anybody has watched Obama in the debates he is much less impressive a speaker when asked questions and discussing policy then he is giving prepared speeches that are light on such topics. I really think that in a year the democrats (who I lean towards) have a much better shot than usual at winning the white house they are going to go with a guy that just isn't ready. McCain certainly will be able to gain much ground in the general election in the debates when people that haven't been following things are starting to pay attention.
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If anybody has watched Obama in the debates he is much less impressive a speaker when asked questions and discussing policy then he is giving prepared speeches that are light on such topics. I really think that in a year the democrats (who I lean towards) have a much better shot than usual at winning the white house they are going to go with a guy that just isn't ready. McCain certainly will be able to gain much ground in the general election in the debates when people that haven't been following things are starting to pay attention.
Dang your going to have to say something I disagree with today, so I can stop making a post that only says...."well said"...
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If anybody has watched Obama in the debates he is much less impressive a speaker when asked questions and discussing policy then he is giving prepared speeches that are light on such topics. I really think that in a year the democrats (who I lean towards) have a much better shot than usual at winning the white house they are going to go with a guy that just isn't ready. McCain certainly will be able to gain much ground in the general election in the debates when people that haven't been following things are starting to pay attention.
Indeed. I prefer Obama to Clinton (she scares me ), but I remain concerned about how much he depends on relatively empty rhetoric and mass appeal.

McCain could potentially be a formidable debater; if Obama gets the nod, I'll be curious to see if his campaign fights to limit the number of debates before the general.
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Indeed. I prefer Obama to Clinton (she scares me ), but I remain concerned about how much he depends on relatively empty rhetoric and mass appeal.

McCain could potentially be a formidable debater; if Obama gets the nod, I'll be curious to see if his campaign fights to limit the number of debates before the general.
no question...McCain has said for the past month that he looks forward to debating Obama...who wouldn't?
Clinton has lots more skeletons and dirt than Obama, but Hillary is far more skilled in debates...Obama - "umm..err...uh...well I...what I mean is..."
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Sheriff has a few talking points, farts them out, then runs away like a sissy. He/she is a lot like Obama, they both have no depth.
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If he's such a great speaker why was he struggling so hard to compose sentences when explaining his preacher predicament? You mean he can deliver a prepared speech, don't you? Yeah he does pretty good at that.
He is good at giving impromptu speeches. That's given. When Old McCain struggles between words, his face wrinkling, his mouth puckering, his eyes rolling over something unseen, I better understand how an old warmonger tries to choose the words people are satisified to hear.

By the way, Sen. Barack Obama, saw his delegate lead over Sen. Hillary Clinton, grow by 10 on Saturday when Iowa Democrats took the second step in picking national convention delegates.

That's grand.
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I'm confused....so a persons orating skills is what makes them a great President?
In that case Sherrif - I assume you believe Ronald Reagan, one of America's best speaking Presidents is therefore one of America's best Presidents?...if not then why would you judge Obama by his speaking ability?
I say delivering great speeches is one of his talents that captures Americans' hearts.

I know he is capable of giving all of us inspirtion. He can heal this nation. He will stand strong.
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If anybody has watched Obama in the debates he is much less impressive a speaker when asked questions and discussing policy then he is giving prepared speeches that are light on such topics. I really think that in a year the democrats (who I lean towards) have a much better shot than usual at winning the white house they are going to go with a guy that just isn't ready. McCain certainly will be able to gain much ground in the general election in the debates when people that haven't been following things are starting to pay attention.
I don’t know, did you see that episode of “Saturday Night Live” and the medias love affair with Barack Hussein Obama?
If we know he’s dishonest and the media is dishonest, his debate rebuttals will probably be written and rehearsed also.
This is what they’ve been shooting for, a candidate that hates the United States as much as they do…
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If anybody has watched Obama in the debates he is much less impressive a speaker when asked questions and discussing policy then he is giving prepared speeches that are light on such topics. I really think that in a year the democrats (who I lean towards) have a much better shot than usual at winning the white house they are going to go with a guy that just isn't ready. McCain certainly will be able to gain much ground in the general election in the debates when people that haven't been following things are starting to pay attention.
As much as I hate to say it, and I wish it isn't true, but the general public doesn't give a hoot about the substance in debates. GW Bush lost all of his presidential debates. But he won the elections because he appeared the more likeable fellow.

All Obama has to do is follow Reagan, Bill Clinton, and GW Bush's game plan: Show up in debates looking sharp and presidental, make a few jokes and turn up the charisma-meter.

In fact, I'd put Obama in as many debates as McCain. I'd make every opportunity to have the tall and lean Obama standing next to the creepy and short McCain. McCain isn't the smartest guy around and he doesn't have the quick wit that Obama and Hillary have. I can see McCain becoming tongue tied after a few jabs from Obama, and loses his famous temper.
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Barack is a great speaker. He touches one's heart directly. You can feel the sincerity, the deep affection he feels for his country. He does not wear the mask that Clinton and McCain wear. Enjoy the greatness.

"You see, the challenges we face will not be solved with one meeting in one night. Change will not come if we wait for some other person or some other time.

We are the ones we've been waiting for. We are the change that we seek. We are the hope of those boys who have little; who've been told that they cannot have what they dream; that they cannot be what they imagine.

Yes they can.

We are the hope of the father who goes to work before dawn and lies awake with doubts that tell him he cannot give his children the same opportunities that someone gave him.

Yes he can.

We are the hope of the woman who hears that her city will not be rebuilt; that she cannot reclaim the life that was swept away in a terrible storm.

Yes she can.

We are the hope of the future; the answer to the cynics who tell us our house must stand divided; that we cannot come together; that we cannot remake this world as it should be.

Because we know what we have seen and what we believe - that what began as a whisper has now swelled to a chorus that cannot be ignored; that will not be deterred; that will ring out across this land as a hymn that will heal this nation, repair this world, and make this time different than all the rest - Yes. We. Can."


Barack Obama

February 05, 2008
I have heard this speech, but still cannot figure out where the substance of the speech is. What is it really about, other than that "people can"? Where is Obama's thoughts on what may be wrong and must be fixed? Where are Obama's ideas? Where are Obama's suggestions on what to do?

In my mind, a speech like this is just empty air. It may sound good when you hear it from a person who is good at giving speeches, but it has no substance. Thus, it is a bad speech.

I am surprised that someone who reads this speech, and is therefore not affected by the ways and means of retoric, thinks it is a good speech.

Where is the message?
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