Christian Zionists are in full throttle to support McCain - U.S. Politics Online: A Political Discussion Forum

Sheriff · #1 (**permalink**) 03-18-2008

The rticle below is a nice excercise to see what America might expect under McCain leadership.

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Talk To Action | Reclaiming Citizenship, History, and Faith
I originally compiled the bulk of the following as an authoritative base reference on statements CUFI leaders and other Christian Zionists have made. Because of John Hagee's recent endorsement of GOP presidential front-runner John McCain, I've decided to publish this now although I already have a great deal of material to add. I've decided to create this as an evolving, versioned document and welcome comments and suggestions for new material.As an adjunct, here's a video clip from a larger piece I'm working on [you'll need to click on the image, and go to the YouTube page this video lives on, to read the scrolling text quotes], provisionally titled "McCainflopping" but maybe, also, "McCainAggeddon". It's a little rough - this is my first foray into crude video but it gets the point across I think ; Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson made careers from repeated, vicious demonization of many societal groups. John McCain called that out in 2000. So, what's changed since then which makes the Falwell/Robertson/John Hagee style of hate speech either acceptable or Christian ?

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Talk To Action | Reclaiming Citizenship, History, and Faith

Fidei Defensor · #2 (**permalink**) 03-18-2008

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The rticle below is a nice excercise to see what America might expect under McCain leadership.

Idiotic political propaganda abounds. I don't envision that changing no matter who the next President is.

Sheriff · #3 (**permalink**) 03-18-2008

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Idiotic political propaganda abounds. I don't envision that changing no matter who the next President is.

As if someone pushed a button somewhere, the political arena where once floated highly with the kind help of Barack Obama, has went down in flames. This latest attack on Obama because of the words of the pastor of the church that he attends is a cheap yet dirty one.

Maybe it is better to keep silent and drown this smear campaign in this silence but I couldn't help stepping forward when this thread suddenly filled with anti-Obama hate messages.

I guess, in this case,it is better to let devil burn in its own flame.

McCain is an old stupid with a head full of zionist shit. Someone has to point this out.

Fidei Defensor · #4 (**permalink**) 03-18-2008

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McCain is an old stupid with a head full of zionist shit. Someone has to point this out.

Thanks for the heads up.

Are you aware that Mr. Obama's head is full of "zionist shit" too?

Obama supports Israel. Period. - Haaretz - Israel News

ei: How Barack Obama learned to love Israel

MattLarson · #5 (**permalink**) 03-18-2008

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Originally Posted by Sheriff

As if someone pushed a button somewhere, the political arena where once floated highly with the kind help of Barack Obama, has went down in flames. This latest attack on Obama because of the words of the pastor of the church that he attends is a cheap yet dirty one.

If this were just the pastor of the church Obama attends, you might be right.

But...

Obama gave this man a significant role in his campaign.

That bears scrutiny.

So far, I think Obama has taken the proper actions (by firing the pastor from the campaign), and I give him credit for it.

But he has to continue to address the issue in a forthright manner, IMHO.

Matt

Sheriff · #6 (**permalink**) 03-18-2008

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Originally Posted by Fidei Defensor

Thanks for the heads up.

Are you aware that Mr. Obama's head is full of "zionist shit" too?

Obama supports Israel. Period. - Haaretz - Israel News

ei: How Barack Obama learned to love Israel

It is a universal fact that Old Mccain has the Zionist Jew and Christian support behind him. Among his major contributors, there are many such organizations.

My belief is that Barack will have a less biased policy toward Mideast. I hope so. And even the stupidest monkeys know that if you anger the Zionist MSM, you are tried to burn in flames; just like Obama experiences now. Not because he has done something wrong, but because McCain's head is much more filled with Zionist Christian shit.

Sheriff · #7 (**permalink**) 03-18-2008

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Originally Posted by MattLarson

If this were just the pastor of the church Obama attends, you might be right.

But...

Obama gave this man a significant role in his campaign.

That bears scrutiny.

So far, I think Obama has taken the proper actions (by firing the pastor from the campaign), and I give him credit for it.

But he has to continue to address the issue in a forthright manner, IMHO.

Matt

In case you might be interested, MattLarson... Senator Obama himself is preparing to deliver what may be a monumental speach in this campaign that wouldn't likely be happening today without the Rev Wright's comments. To try to squelch conversation today seems to me to be the exact opposite of what Barack wants people to do, engage topics, share ideas, and find common ground going forward.

It is 10:15 AM EST.

10:15 am EST. On all major cable network.

Now you can watch it online here:

CNN.com International

God Bless.

Fidei Defensor · #8 (**permalink**) 03-18-2008

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... McCain's head is much more filled with Zionist Christian shit.

I see. Not sure how you're able to quantify the amount of Zionist shit, but I'm not really surprised to see that you don't care that Obama's head is full of Zionist shit too. You're a true believer, and that is a powerful device.

I'll be interested to see if your views change when U.S. policy toward Israel and Palestine stays the same during an Obama Presidency.

Sheriff · #9 (**permalink**) 03-18-2008

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I see. Not sure how you're able to quantify the amount of Zionist shit, but I'm not really surprised to see that you don't care that Obama's head is full of Zionist shit too. You're a true believer, and that is a powerful device.

I'll be interested to see if your views change when U.S. policy toward Israel and Palestine stays the same during an Obama Presidency.

And you are a true denier.

Here's the quantitative explanation of the Zionist shit in Old McCain's skull.

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Mike Piper Exposes Zionist, Globalist John McCain | Ron Paul War Room
SELF-STYLED REPUBLICAN “reformer” John McCain is right now positioned as one of the top figures in the race for the GOP presidential nomination. But one thing about McCain that the mass media chooses not to report is his family connection to the organized crime-connected interests that have run the state of Arizona (through both major political parties) since at least the 1940s.

To understand McCain—in particular his devotion to the interests of Israel—it is necessary to recognize the little-known fact that the powerful Bronfman family empire, based on its Seagram’s liquor fortune and its controlling influence over the Time-Warner media conglomerate, has been the primary behind-the-scenes force dominating Arizona politics.

While the Bronfman family first came to power in Montreal in the 1920s under Sam Bronfman, a foremost partner of U.S.-based organized crime chieftain Meyer Lansky whose so-called “Mafia” henchmen peddled Bronfman liquor in the United States during Prohibition, the current head of the family, Edgar Bronfman, spent many years as president of the powerful World Jewish Congress.

The Bronfmans, along with the Rothschilds of Europe, the Oppenheimers of South Africa, and Armand Hammer of the United States—all patrons of Israel and the global Zionist network—constituted what has been dubbed the “Billionaire Gang of Four.” But the Bronfman family has emerged as the virtual royal family of American Zionism, and their tentacles reach far and wide throughout the United States through a vast array of holdings little known to the public.

One particularly famous Texas-based mob functionary, nightclub keeper Jack Ruby, for example, is known to have actually been a lieutenant of the Bronfman family (a point that has often been lost or suppressed in the legends surrounding Ruby’s ties to organized crime). And it is known—although again not mentioned by most JFK assassination “researchers”— that Ruby was a key player in a Texas-based network smuggling arms (stolen from U.S. military installations) to Israel, the Bronfman empire’s favorite foreign nation.

Aside from that historical digression, the fact (relevant to our review of John McCain) is that McCain’s home state of Arizona has long been under Bronfman control.

While most Americans perceive Arizona as a paradise of cowboys, cacti and wide-open spaces and a conservative stronghold independent of the corruption and intrigue found in the big cities like New York, Miami, Chicago and Los Angeles, Arizona ranks right up alongside the great crime capitals. That status can be traced directly to the influence of the Bronfmans.

The Bronfmans are the “godfathers” behind the political career of John McCain.

In 1976 a crusading Phoenix reporter, Don Bolles, was murdered by a car bomb after writing a series of stories exposing the organized crime connections of a wide-ranging number of well-known figures in Arizona, including one Jim Hensley. Five years later “Honest John” McCain arrived in Arizona as the new husband of Hensley’s daughter, Cindy. “From the moment McCain landed in Phoenix,” according to Charles Lewis of the Center for Public Integrity, “the Hensleys were key sponsors of his political career.” But the people behind the Hensley fortune are even more controversial.

McCain’s late father-in-law was the owner of the biggest Anheuser-Busch beer distributorship in Arizona—one of the largest beer distributors in the nation. But the mainstream media has had nothing to say about the origins of the Hensley fortune that financed McCain’s rise to power. The Hensley fortune is a regional offshoot of the big-time bootlegging and rackets empire of the Bronfman dynasty.

McCain’s father-in-law got his start as a top henchman for Kemper Marley, who, for 40 years until his death in 1990 at age 84, was the undisputed behind-the-scenes political boss of Arizona. But Marley was much more than a machine politician. In fact, he was also the Lansky crime syndicate’s top man in Arizona, the protege of a Lansky lieutenant, Phoenix gambler Gus Greenbaum.

In 1941 Greenbaum had set up the Transamerica Publishing and News Service, which operated a national wire for bookmakers. In 1946 Greenbaum turned over the day-to-day operations to Marley while Greenbaum focused on building up Lansky-run casinos in Las Vegas, commuting there from his home in Phoenix. Greenbaum, in fact, was so integral to the Lansky empire that he was the one who took command of Lansky’s Las Vegas interests in 1947 after Lansky ordered the execution of his own longtime friend, Benjamin “Bugsy” Siegel, for skimming mob profits from the new Flamingo Casino.

Greenbaum and his wife were murdered in a mob “hit” in 1948, their throats cut. The murder set off a series of gangland wars in Phoenix, but Marley survived and prospered.

During this time Marley was building up a liquor distribution monopoly in Arizona. According to Marley’s longtime public relations man, Al Lizanitz, it was the Bronfman family that set Marley up in the liquor business. In 1948, 52 of Marley’s employees (including Jim Hensley) went to jail for federal liquor violations—but not Marley.

The story in Arizona is that Hensley took the fall for Marley and, upon his release from prison, Marley paid back Hensley’s loyalty by setting him up in the beer distribution business. That beer company today, said to be worth $200 million, is what largely financed John McCain’s political career. The support from the Bronfman-Marley-Hensley network was integral to McCain’s rise to power.

The attorney who handled Hensley’s legal defense, forging the deal that set in motion Hensley’s windfall (that now benefits McCain), was William Rehnquist, who later became chief justice of the United States, later to be joined on the court by one of his own former girlfriends from Arizona, Sandra Day O’Connor. The one-vote margin on the Supreme Court that handed the presidency to George W. Bush following the 2000 election debacle might be considered a product of the “Bronfman bloc.”

McCain’s father-in-law had also dabbled in the dog racing business and he expanded his family fortune further by selling his dog racing track to an individual connected to the Emprise Corp., run by the Buffalo-based Jacobs family.

The Jacobs family was the leading distributor for Bronfman liquor smuggled into the United States during Prohibition and controlled the “spigot” of Bronfman liquor pouring into the casks of local gangs that were part of the Lansky syndicate. Expanding over the years, buying up horse and dog racing tracks and developing food and drink concessions at sports stadiums, the Jacobs family’s enterprises were once described as being “probably the biggest quasi-legitimate cover for organized crime’s money-laundering in the United States.”

While John McCain himself cannot be held personally responsible for the sins of his father-in-law, the fact is that this “reformer” owes his political and financial fortunes to the good graces of the biggest names in organized crime. Today, the Las Vegas gambling industry is among McCain’s primary financial benefactors. This brief overview is just the tip of the iceberg but it does say much about McCain and the political milieu that spawned him, particularly in light of McCain’s front-line position as one of Israel’s leading congressional water-carriers.

Doing Israel’s bidding is a McCain family tradition. Following Israel’s 1967 attack on the USS Liberty, resulting in the murder of 34 Americans, McCain’s father, Adm. John McCain, was one of the key players inside the U.S. Navy helping cover up the deliberate nature of Israel’s savage attack. “Like father, like son” clearly means something when it comes to the McCains.

Fidei Defensor · #10 (**permalink**) 03-18-2008

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And you are a true denier.

Here's the quantitative explanation of the Zionist shit in Old McCain's skull.

I'm anything but a "denier." I have no doubt that John McCain favors Israel just like Barack Obama. I'm just not particularly interested in your smear campaigns.

Rather, I'm interested in a new kind of politics.

Sheriff · #11 (**permalink**) 03-19-2008

Anyone interested in the secret ties between McCain and Bronfman family?

chassisman · #12 (**permalink**) 03-19-2008

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Originally Posted by Fidei Defensor

Thanks for the heads up.

Are you aware that Mr. Obama's head is full of "zionist shit" too?

Obama supports Israel. Period. - Haaretz - Israel News

ei: How Barack Obama learned to love Israel

No, no! His candidate walks on water! How wrong you are!!!!!

Si modo · #13 (**permalink**) 03-19-2008

Nice job, Sheriff. Your campaign spamming is almost up there with the Paulettes. But, I congratulate you on your persistent spin.

chassisman · #14 (**permalink**) 03-19-2008

After McCain wins the election I want all you Obamites to clear the fuck out......ya got that, pilgrims ?

Sheriff · #15 (**permalink**) 03-19-2008

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After McCain wins the election I want all you Obamites to clear the fuck out......ya got that, pilgrims ?

Always bad langauge. I will not talk to you until you learn talking without using "fu**" and "sh**."

Si Modo:

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Nice job, Sheriff. Your campaign spamming is almost up there with the Paulettes. But, I congratulate you on your persistent spin.

When did asking considerable questions become spamming? I asked, "Have you ever been interested in the ties between McCain and the Bronfman family?"

If you have no answer to this, I would happily understand it.

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