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Re: Richardson Endoreses Obama
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anyone who lived through eight years of Bill and Hillary Clinton already knows that Hillary will never give in or concede. She is going to take this to Denver regardless of what it does to her party. You can bank on it.
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Re: Richardson Endoreses Obama
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White males tend to vote GOP anyway despite the fact that, Ferraro in 1984 excepted, white males have always been on the Dem ticket. Thus, I think it is a matter of candidates having positions that satisfy enough white males who aren't already firmly in the Dem camp moreso than being just a white male. As for white males who harbour prejudice against women, blacks, Hispanics, etc, I don't see such types generally being open to Democratic tickets anyway. Archie Bunker just isn't going to do that. YouTube - Archie Bunker on Democrats YouTube - All in the Family - Archie Bunker Meets Sammy Davis I liked Richardson early in the primary; he just didn't get traction. What I really liked about him was his Blue Dog streaks, an area where appeals to many white males can be made. Many people are just party lever pullers, but I'm not. I've always been a cross party voter and have conservative, moderate, and libertarian streaks on certain issues and aspects whilst liberal on others. Thus, I have to look at all the candidates and their issues, strengths and weaknesses, etc, as I view them, and measure the totality of the circumstances. Anything that tilts the see-saw towards one side or the other is what adds up to a decision. For example, Richardson's excellent NRA rating on guns was a huge plus for me. Richardson will have that advantage on that particular issue over a white male who has a terrible NRA approval record.
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Re: Richardson Endoreses Obama
And it's a bet you'd win if I were booking at Las Vegas.
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Re: Richardson Endorses Obama
Here we go! Bill Richardson is the govenor of New Mexico. Hillary won New Mexico. So we have a govenor going "against" the wishes of his own state, therefore disenfranchising the voters.
I wonder what Obama promised him for this endorsement? You can bet Richardsons endorsement is for his own personal political gain. That is, should Obama win the general election. If he doesn't, I don't expect to see or hear much from Richardson. The voters in N.M sure aren't going to vote for him again. |
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Re: Richardson Endorses Obama
The math has been unrelenting, even when Hillary wins she is further behind, she needs something like 80% of the vote in PA to get even in the popular vote, and that's not going to happen without a complete disaster hitting the Obama campaign, and this stuff about his minister is fading fast.
At some point before the convention, the superdelegates will let Hillary know that it's over, theoretically she can still close the gap, but the math gets harder with every primary. Maybe if we had 100 states, and things were just ramping up she could catch Obama in the last 50 states, but theres only something like 20 primaries left, and unless she pulls off a huge win in PA she's done and the Superdelegates will let her know in no uncertain terms.
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Obama's polls suggest that you're wrong. Pastor Wrights comments are still of great concern. Obama's racial speech is the one that is fading. When the rubber meets the road: Voters are asking themselves: How could a man speak such beautiful words regarding racial issues in this country, & then run contrary to his own words, by being a 20 year member of a very racist, hate filled, separatist church? The answer will be in the voting booth. Last edited by Oreo; 03-21-2008 at 10:10 PM. |
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It doesn't make him any different from any other politician. But, the disregard for the voters of his own state are to me, a little over the top. If I were an elected official, I wouldn't go against the wishes of the voters of the state that I represented. We are going to watch Ted Kennedy & John Kerry do the same thing. Go against the wishes of their state, to cast their "super delegate" vote for Obama. It's down-right dirty! |
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Re: Richardson Endorses Obama
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He can support whoever the fuck he wants.
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Re: Richardson Endorses Obama
Richardson's endorsement is a huge blow to Hillary on a number of important levels:
1) His extremely high profile among Hispanic voters (as the nation's only Hispanic Governor) 2) His profile as perhaps the most experienced Dem on foreign policy issues (I'd be very comfortable having Richardson answer that 3am phone call anytime) 3) As a former member of Clinton's administration, its a total vote of "no confidence" to Hillary -- his endorsement should have been a shoo-in. 4) Richardson supporters now know that the best chance to see their man serve at a prominent position in the next administration is with Obama (i.e. Hillary certainly ain't going to be calling Richardson for any positions now) 5) This may mark the catalyst necessary for the "Superdelegate" logjam to break Obama's way. Frankly, those who claim that Richardson is somehow putting his interests before those of the country couldn't be more wrong. The safe bet is to sit back, wait to see who eventually becomes the nominee, and then come out with a loud endorsement. Richardson is taking a huge risk -- if Clinton becomes the nominee, he's all but going to be shut out for the next administration (if not the next two). If anything he should be given credit rather than criticized for making a decision that puts what he believes to be the interests of the country ahead of his own ambitions.
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Last edited by agoodfella; 03-22-2008 at 12:04 AM. |
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It scares me that there are Americans out there who think Rev. Wrights words are somehow more important voting issues than the economy and healthcare. When both systems are broken. Its not even a republican democrat thing. Like, shouldnt your vote, no matter WHO it goes for, be about who will be the best on those issues. And if you can't articulate why either candidate would be good on THOSE issues, then..aren't you kind of an idiot?
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All kinds of associations can be drawn by the GOP's getting in bed with Religious Right figures. Likewise, the Dem's cheerleaders and hype men/women will be conveniently one-sided on downplaying and hyping anything they see that suits their objectives. (Example--"John McCain is a warmongering closet anti-Catholic fundamentalist and/or 'for sale' tool of them and he and his RR pals are going for Armageddon, etc!"). In short, it's just political jockeying for the most part.
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Re: Richardson Endorses Obama
I love James Carville:
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