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Old 03-21-2008
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Richardson Endorses Obama

This is huge. Clinton has to realize that in the wake of Obama's awesome speech and the sheer math that her bid for the candidacy is now essentially over. She can rip the Democrtic party asunder to win or she can accept defeat.

Obama Snags Richardson Endorsement | The Trail | washingtonpost.com
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Re: Richardson Endoreses Obama

wow I did not see that at all.
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Re: Richardson Endoreses Obama

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This is huge. Clinton has to realize that in the wake of Obama's awesome speech and the sheer math that her bid for the candidacy is now essentially over. She can rip the Democrtic party asunder to win or she can accept defeat.

Obama Snags Richardson Endorsement | The Trail | washingtonpost.com


I hardly see Richardson's endorsement as the death knell for Ms. Clinton. I see no reason why this would push her over the edge at this point.
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Re: Richardson Endoreses Obama

Because there's just a little too much going against her.

Michigan and Florida aren't going to have a re-vote, which mean there's no way she's going to catch up in either the popular vote or in the pledged delegate count. The super delegates will have to award her the nomination despite losing more states, getting less votes and winning less pledged delegates. That seems REALLY unlikely to me. I think superdelegates are keeping silent because they truly want the voters to cast their ballots. But the party isn't going to buck popular opinion.
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Because there's just a little too much going against her.

Michigan and Florida aren't going to have a re-vote, which mean there's no way she's going to catch up in either the popular vote or in the pledged delegate count. The super delegates will have to award her the nomination despite losing more states, getting less votes and winning less pledged delegates. That seems REALLY unlikely to me. I think superdelegates are keeping silent because they truly want the voters to cast their ballots. But the party isn't going to buck popular opinion.
Yeah, but I took from the OP that this endorsement is the final straw. That just doesn't make any sense. She's held out this long. An endorsement by Richardson for Obama isn't gonna change anything.
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Well that's the thing. How long will she go tearing the part apart despite the fact that mathematically, she is done.
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Well that's the thing. How long will she go tearing the part apart despite the fact that mathematically, she is done.
I think for a very long time. She will do whatever it takes to win. As long as she believes there's hope to get the superdelegates on her side, she will stay in.
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Re: Richardson Endoreses Obama

Does anyone else think that beard is sexy? No? .....uh....yeah me neither
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Re: Richardson Endoreses Obama

Ordinarily I don't think his endorsement will spell her doom. She'll likely still win or lose by other factors. It might encourage some Hispanics to now pull for Obama hoping that Richardson gets the VP slot on an Obama ticket. Whether that happens remains to be seen.

I view this more as a smart play by Richardson on his own behalf.

If Hillary wins, she'll likely pick Obama as her VP by necessity. She has said as much in order to encourage voters to pick her and, if they do, the carrot is that the voter can get both on the ticket by her picking Obama as VP. She's receive backlash by those who fervently backed Obama if she didn't pick him by voting with their arse or someone else, sneering and contempt, etc.

Richardson now endorsing Obama gives him the chance to get on an Obama ticket if he wins, which is the more likely scenario now. An Obama/Richardson ticket also presents itself as a powerful ticket. Richardson is Hispanic and he's also quite moderate (gets an excellent NRA rating for example). Obama has also not had to beat up on Richardson like he has on Hillary and vice versa in the nomination process. Richardson also doesn't have an equivalent of 'Hillary haters' in the public and given Richardson is not from a 'dynasty family' fits into the 'change' theory (Hillary is a woman, but she is also Clinton's wife and ex-First Lady). These are things Obama surely recognises.
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Re: Richardson Endoreses Obama

From his (obamas)speech it sounded like not a vp slot but maybe secretary of state.

I thought Obamas speech about him sounded wrong calling him ambitous in a way sounded condescending to me .

It could have been worded better.

I really was suprised that Richardson endorsed obama he seemed in the Clinton camp to me. i think he saw writing on the wall and wanted to secure a spot in new administration for himself.
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Re: Richardson Endoreses Obama

Really? I personally saw him as an Obama supporter, especially considering how they engaged one another during the early debates.
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Re: Richardson Endoreses Obama

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I really was suprised that Richardson endorsed obama he seemed in the Clinton camp to me. i think he saw writing on the wall and wanted to secure a spot in new administration for himself.
I am not surprised. As early as in the Iowa caucuses, the Richardson camp told their supporters to go for Obama rather than Clinton if they could not get Richardson.

However, I think an Obama/Richardson ticket less likely, given that both of them can be said to be "minority candidates".
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Re: Richardson Endoreses Obama

actually richardson helps pull the hispanic vote
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Re: Richardson Endoreses Obama

do I see a veep play here? Humm maybe.Yes of course, he came out at just the right time.....nice play. I am glad to see as a hispanic american he is pleased and glad we are not playing identity politcs .......I mean, give me a break.....


Citing Obama's speech this week on race relations, Richardson praised Obama, who is seeking to become the first African American elected to the White House, for "rejecting the politics of race against race."

"As a Hispanic American, I was particularly touched" by Obama's comments, Richardson told the cheering crowd.

Obama "didn't evade the tough issue to soothe us with half-truths," Richardson said.

Richardson endorses Obama - Los Angeles Times
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Re: Richardson Endoreses Obama

I honestly don't see Richardson as being a V.P. candidate here. While I think he would be great and was in full disclosure my pick for the democratic nomination...I don't think there is any chance Obama will choose him. Consider this since nobody in the news media will say it, Obama has had increasing difficulty with the white male vote, it is not going to help him in the general election with Richardson on the ticket. I would love nothing more than to have him in the White House, but it will not work. The same goes for Clinton.

What will happen? I think Richardson for Secretary of State is a real possibility. Obama (and Clinton if she is still around) will choose a white male for their V.P. choice. They honestly don't have much of a choice. And I hate saying that...I honestly do...but I feel that is the reality of it.
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