For a man who is offering us hope he sure seems to have had a hopeless life.

From the link you provided Obama is a really pathetic soul. He is totally immersed and wallowing in his situation.

This is just a few examples of Obama's cynicism.

Pride leads to disgrace, produces quarrels, leads to punishment, leads to destruction, ends in downfall.

Humility leads to wisdom, takes advice, leads to honor.

A thought is meaningless unless you say it out loud, then it is able to remain with you. If you continually say the color of your skin is a liability it will be. If you feel alienated this is just in your mind, but if you say it out loud or write it down it becomes a part of you. If you think a black will never be President it will become self-manifesting. If you feel that whites hate you and you externalize your beliefs you will be hated.

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"These two entities, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, are not facing any kind of financial crisis,"

"The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies,

the less we will see in terms of affordable housing." - Rep. Barney Frank (D)

I don't really know how to do this whole quote thing so I will talk about your last statement here also. You say Obama is losing to McCain now but Hilary is by the the same percentage also so that says nothing.

I want to now how his programs will be disasterous for national secutiry. I want to know exactly what that is in the first place. What I think that is, is a reason for the government to start wars and try to police the world. More people get killed in this country by citizens of this country than ever will by terrorists. Fighting the so called "war on terror" is nonsense. When was the last terrorist attack in this country? Yet there are terrorist attacks everyday in the countries that our army occupies. That is where our people are being killed by the terrorists so whos plan is disasterous? Oh yeah I forget why did are the terrorists against us in the first place? Oh I remember our military occupation of another country. Seams to be a pattern. Can you figure out the link in all the terrorist activity?

9/11

The first day of the "War on Terror"

so you agree, we are winning.....

When did the last terrorist attack on America happen? Yesterday. Are we still winning?

What was the reason for the last terrorist attack? Again our troops occupation of a forign country that didn't want us there.

Would you be mad if Iraqi troops occupied this country and policed us?

The majority of the nations in the region sure did want us there.

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I am an American. That's the way most of us put it, just matter of factly. They are plain words, those four: you could write them on your thumbnail, or sweep them clear across this bright autumn sky. But remember too, that they are more than just words. They are a way of life. So whenever you speak them, speak them firmly, speak them proudly, speak them gratefully. I am an American. ...a tradition

What nations would you be refering to?

Yes the Iraqi people did want us there. To help get Saddam out of power. That has been accomplished. They don't want us to rule their country which is the exact thing we are wasting lives and money on.

We have our own gavernment. Isn't it only right that other countries are able to have their own. Why do we feel the need to be in charge.

There is NOTHING that can help Obama more than people buying his books, he is open, honest and incredibly thoughtful. We know that our last two preidents used at least marijuana, and in the later case, cocaine in their youth. Would they ever admit to such in a book? Never. Obama however is unashamed of the mistakes he's made in the past. Americans who were foolish in youth and matured and found Christ and then changed their life will really respond. I guess the minority of Americans who have lived perfect lives would be turned off by his books.

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Yesterday, John McCain actually said that if he’s president he’ll take on, and I quote, 'the old boys’ network in Washington.' I’m not making this up. This is somebody been in Congress for 26 years, who put seven of the most powerful Washington lobbyists in charge of his campaign. And now he tells us that he’s the one who’s gonna take on the old boys' network,” he said. “In the McCain campaign that’s called a staff meeting!- Obama, 9/17/2008

YOU said IN this country.....dont blame me because YOU worded YOUR question wrong...

BTW, you been fighting in the war? Or are you just sitting at home reading some article written by someone else who hasn't been there?

Those who have been fighting in it know better. We have seen it first hand and can say for sure you don't know what the hell you're talking about.

So Wagner, since you aren't serving in the military and like most liberals hate the military guts, why you so worried about us? You and your type use us in uniform as a tool to attack this the war and President. Your use for us after that is limited to calling us names....a freedom that I provide you with. Maybe it time for the sorry ass libs start fighting for your own rights. We who protect this country for those who are to damn chicken, cowardly or just to damn lazy, we might just sit the next one out. Let the libs pick up a weapon.....lol

I don't have to have fought in the war to be educated about the war. I don't have to be a boxer to be educated about boxing or a professional football player to be educated about football. Or a politician to be educated about politics. So why do I have to be a solder in order to be educated about the Iraq War, the surrounding region and the real effects of our actions in the area.

I can understand why veterans are defensive of the war. The war has to have been worse the sacrifice of human lives every single day. To have seen those levels of death and destruction any person would have to find purpose in it in order to remain sane and believe the world was a good place. But that does NOT mean that veterans have a monopoly on assessing whether the war actually IS worth it and HAS made us safer. I say none of this to disparage or denigrate soldiers sacrifice.

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Yesterday, John McCain actually said that if he’s president he’ll take on, and I quote, 'the old boys’ network in Washington.' I’m not making this up. This is somebody been in Congress for 26 years, who put seven of the most powerful Washington lobbyists in charge of his campaign. And now he tells us that he’s the one who’s gonna take on the old boys' network,” he said. “In the McCain campaign that’s called a staff meeting!- Obama, 9/17/2008

The reason terrorists hate us is because we support Israel. Can you figure out why?

The reason we haven't had an attack here in so long is because even though the Dems have been doing everything they can to thwart him Bush is making good on his promise to protect us from further attacks. As long as he is able to keep how he's doing it hidden from the press it will continue to succeed.

Obama's policies will be bad for the economy because they focus on consumers and ignores the needs of businesses. Obama is really good at identifying problems but he's a little short on solutions. He thinks socialism is a cure-all for everything. By increasing entitlements he will bankrupt the treasury. His solution is to throw money at everything. Problem is we're already broke, so his solution is to tax the rich. But as the rich start taking their money elsewhere to avoid taxes the economy will tank, jobs will be lost, you paycheck will be eaten up by new taxes so you'll have less to spend which in turn will cause tightening budgets across the country and slow the economy even more. He's Jimmy Carter all over again.

His energy policies will keep us dependent on foreign oil rather then allow us to drill for the oil we already have. He won't allow us to build more refineries so we will have to import even more gas. We are currently importing 30% because our old outdated refineries can't keep up with the demand. Also he intends on increasing pollution standards even more causing the need for newer more expense types of fuel alternatives. Energy is the engine that drives the economy. Obama will insure that energy will be more expensive because of his irrational energy policies.

Two of Obama's programs will cost more then the entire US budget. And guess what he wants to do with the over 1 Trillion it will take for those two programs? He wants to spend $863 billion on world poverty and over $200 billion on a new Global Warming program. He wants to send out mindless GW zombies and educate us all about the dangers of GW. Truth be told scientists have have discovered that GW ended over a decade ago. Bill and Hillary tried implementing Global Warming taxes a decade ago and missed the bus. Now it's Al Gore and every other socialist, including Mr. Obama, in Washington trying to fleece America of as much cash as is humanly possible. It is what is known as a wedge issue. It is intended to draw comparisons between the Dems and the GOP. Special interest groups like the Sierra Club are running the Democrat party. They could care less if they cause most of America to live in abject poverty as long as they save a few Snowy Egrets. After all to many of the Democrats special interest groups man is the problem that needs eradicating.

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"These two entities, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, are not facing any kind of financial crisis,"

"The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies,

the less we will see in terms of affordable housing." - Rep. Barney Frank (D)

So you believe that Bush is the reason we haven't been attacked, despite the fact that how he is doing it is a secret and MUST remain secret? In other words you have no clue as to Bush's role in why we haven't been attacked.
We've had the most pro-business President and Congress the last 8 years and look at what has happened to the economy. Obama is not calling for socialism. He is, however, calling for the following things.

1. Corporate responsibility: Corporations need to find ways to make profit that aren't irresponsible to the environment or to their employees. If the right wing doesn't want the federal government intervening with "entitlements" than corporations need to take up more of the mantle of supporting their employees outside of the CEO boardroom. The evidence that they have failed in this duty is all around us. It is not, however, impossible for corporations to make money and be responsible towards the majority if their employees. It requires internal corproate wealth distribution. Lowering salaries at the top and raising them throughout. I'm not saying everyone makes the same, or even close. But do CEOs need 72 million dollar payouts? I mean....really? Capitalism is the only system for America, but that doesn't mean unchecked capitalism is a good thing. Unchecked ANYTHING isn't a good thing.

All Obama is saying is that there needs to be some balance restored. Either, the government can intervene and assist people or corporations need to return to paying Americans a wage that can support a family in line with modern day costs of living, healthcare being the largest. Why is that bad?

OK it's officially time to stop short term planning when it comes to our energy needs. We can drill for all the oil on our homeland that we want. There is NOT a large enough reserve of oil to sustain the growing needs of the U.S economy. Also, pollution is actually bad. Even if you ignore Climate Change. Air pollution severely impacts health rates, cancer rates, ashtma, etc. The destruction of ecosystems effects Americans. The honeybee issue for example. We're not even talking temperature change.

How, you say, will Americans afford Renewable Energy? By using the AWESOME power of the American marketplace to institute it. Corporate renewable energy is the exact solution to the problem. All it requires is a shifting of gears and a loosening of business inertia.

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Yesterday, John McCain actually said that if he’s president he’ll take on, and I quote, 'the old boys’ network in Washington.' I’m not making this up. This is somebody been in Congress for 26 years, who put seven of the most powerful Washington lobbyists in charge of his campaign. And now he tells us that he’s the one who’s gonna take on the old boys' network,” he said. “In the McCain campaign that’s called a staff meeting!- Obama, 9/17/2008

Obama, and other candidates, use a lot of feel-good rhetoric, yet haven't much of a plan. It's been used by most candidates for decades of elections.

It usually reminds me of those questions posed to Miss America finalists: The most common answer to those question is, "I want world peace". Right. Who doesn't?

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I am an American. That's the way most of us put it, just matter of factly. They are plain words, those four: you could write them on your thumbnail, or sweep them clear across this bright autumn sky. But remember too, that they are more than just words. They are a way of life. So whenever you speak them, speak them firmly, speak them proudly, speak them gratefully. I am an American. ...a tradition

War profiteers.

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"Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God."
Matthew 5:9

Pretty much my point - pretty rhetoric with no plan nor any reality involved.

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I am an American. That's the way most of us put it, just matter of factly. They are plain words, those four: you could write them on your thumbnail, or sweep them clear across this bright autumn sky. But remember too, that they are more than just words. They are a way of life. So whenever you speak them, speak them firmly, speak them proudly, speak them gratefully. I am an American. ...a tradition

Yeah and sometimes that feel good rhetoric transforms into major change for the nation. The problem is that the American people do not know their own hsitory. If they understood how self sacrificial and community minded America was during the Great Depression when they elected FDR they would understand the Obama campaign a little better.

FDR never pretended America was a raceless society, but he did recognize that America had to work together, from all races, religious and classes in order to get out of that economic crisis. The U.S. promoted alot of cultural pluralism. It critisized Hitler's racism. It desegregated the army. In addition to putting people to work producing for the war effort and modernizing American cities/small towns, it educated Americans about racial groups they knew TONS less about today than in our society.

Obama has modeled himself upon FDR. And I know what you're going to say. Johnson's Great Society tried to redo the New Deal and it failed. It was meant to solve black poverty with welfare and affirmative action. It absolutely failed in every way. Urban areas became crime infested jungles.

However, the Great Society was insuffeciently funded. When you take a look at the expenditures spent on "welfare" programs, it represented a vastly small slice of the budget. More importantly, the New Deal coalition of Democratic voters essentially kept those policies working, churning out the middle class decade after decade. Nixon and Ford dismantled the Great Society before it could even begin to address the issues it was meant to.

Also Johnson never really believed in the Great Society/New Deal the way F.D.R did and Obama clearly does. That was really J.F.K's thing, he'd run on that in the election. His death left old geezer Johnson unable to really address those issues. In short, Johnson was unable to make the Great Society work because he couldn't rally the support of the American people with inspirational frickin rhetoric in the way F.D.R and J.F.K. did.

I don't really take a lot of stock in the power of the President. Normally they are balked by Congress, unlike the last 8 years. And, as the last 8 years shows us, one party rule is a pretty shitty idea. But what a President CAN do, better than anyone, is use his/her power as an American icon to persuade the American people. F.D.R relied ENTIRELY on rhetorical persuasion and it really worked. The country fixed itself. And remained economically stable for DECADES afterwards.

Why can't it happen again. Learn your history and you'll understand why this is about oh so much more than Obama's race.

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Yesterday, John McCain actually said that if he’s president he’ll take on, and I quote, 'the old boys’ network in Washington.' I’m not making this up. This is somebody been in Congress for 26 years, who put seven of the most powerful Washington lobbyists in charge of his campaign. And now he tells us that he’s the one who’s gonna take on the old boys' network,” he said. “In the McCain campaign that’s called a staff meeting!- Obama, 9/17/2008