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Funny, I wasn't even going to say anything like that...didn't even enter my mind.

But, now that you brought up FDR, that president had a lot of problems with which to deal, and, IMO, he dealt with a lot of them recklessly. I'm not a fan of FDR (nor of Johnson).

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I am an American. That's the way most of us put it, just matter of factly. They are plain words, those four: you could write them on your thumbnail, or sweep them clear across this bright autumn sky. But remember too, that they are more than just words. They are a way of life. So whenever you speak them, speak them firmly, speak them proudly, speak them gratefully. I am an American. ...a tradition

When FDR came into officer America had 13,000,000 unemployed, and almost every bank was closed. Should he have been gradual. It seems to be a cycle in American history. Ever 60 or so years you have an economic meltdown, capitalism is rebuilt and stabilized. But it is altered. It normally takes things falling apart for that to happen. The New Deal has run its course, it was crafted for an earlier time and for an earlier crisis.

I see no harm in developing a 21st century version of the New Deal. Something that will work with business rather than against it.

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If you stop trying to bring the Bible into the classroom, I'll stop secretly sneaking biology textbooks into the pews on Saturday nights. Deal?

If the flag is precious to YOU, then don't burn YOURS.

I am sorry to hear that a whopping 2% of black inner city churches talk like that. But, that also means that Obama had another 98% choice he could have made to go to a different church. He decided to take the low road, I guess?

No you misunderstood. He said that within most African American churches 2% of the message will have that anti-racist anger. But that98% of the sermons are about Christian principles, love, peace, forgiveness etc. And if you read a Wright sermon in entirety, instead of listening to clips out of context you would recognize that balance.

Oreo, I have to say man. When you first started posting on here you seemed to have interesting things to say about alot of topics. And now you are all about this Wright business. I find it hard to accept someone as smart as you would decide about a person based on a few snippets, rather than their whole life, career and history. You are entitled to your opinion. But...it makes it harder to respond when you just keep repeating yourself over and over with nearly the exact same thing.

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If you stop trying to bring the Bible into the classroom, I'll stop secretly sneaking biology textbooks into the pews on Saturday nights. Deal?

If the flag is precious to YOU, then don't burn YOURS.

The government of Saudi Arabia invited our base in. Just because "a few" Islamic radicals", didn't want us there, is no excuse for 9/11. Their country did.

By the way, the Iraqi government wants us to stay in Iraq, until they are secure. Note--again I say government. If the government of Iraq wanted us to leave, we would.

Basically what you're implying is that every government, every country in the world needs to bend over & take it from the radical Islamic minority. Or they deserve everything that they get.

HOW RIDICULOUS

Oreo, by most people's standards the government of Saudi Arabia is not particularly representative of its people.

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"Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God."
Matthew 5:9

Oreo I don't believe you ever really supported Obama. You just joined the bandwagon ignorantly. Obama has the strongest withdrawal proposals and you supported him before Rev. Wright controversy? I'm sorry but...are you dumb?

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If you stop trying to bring the Bible into the classroom, I'll stop secretly sneaking biology textbooks into the pews on Saturday nights. Deal?

If the flag is precious to YOU, then don't burn YOURS.

At this point, I can't really leave Obama. Hillary has lost and I want a Democrat.

I also like the idea of a poetic, intellectual President. They are a rare breed.

-Ben

We all have seen what a democrat can do to your state.......has your democratic mayor and Gov cleaned up NO yet? No? Whats the hold up?

I bet they are hiding money in freezers.......

Would you settle for a thespian ?

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668.....the neighbour of the beast.

Repeating the same empty, untrue rhetoric over and over, ie:

"Obama, and other candidates, use a lot of feel-good rhetoric, yet haven't much of a plan." doesn't make it true.

Sen Obama has detailed his plans on almost every issue @

Barack Obama | Change We Can Believe In | Home

The simple fact that you are not aware of it, doesn't make reality go away. The intellectually honest route would be to take on his stances on those issues, rather than deny they exist. So sir, what say you now?

Now that I'll done that very difficult task of finding that substance you said didn't exist, (15 secs to google) you can focus on something besides your search for his proposals. Are you up to the task?

If a white adherent to the "Aryan Nations" Christian identity group ran for the presidency of Zambia do you think the black voters would be most interested in his economic policies? They would likely be more concerned with self-preservation if you know what I mean?

Which has what to do with Sen Obama? That sir is pure ad hominem. Sen Obama isn't a member of anything close to "Aryan Nations" or it's polar opposite.

Thanks for the link, but you really shouldn't have troubled yourself - been there, read it.

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I am an American. That's the way most of us put it, just matter of factly. They are plain words, those four: you could write them on your thumbnail, or sweep them clear across this bright autumn sky. But remember too, that they are more than just words. They are a way of life. So whenever you speak them, speak them firmly, speak them proudly, speak them gratefully. I am an American. ...a tradition

Barack Obama is a member, no an ACTIVE member of an afro-centric black nationalist church. The "Black Value System" of the church places blacks above all others and even demands that its members only pledge allegiance to black leaders.

As far as ad hominem goes; even ad hominems can be accurate and in this case is actually fair comment considering that Obama is poising himself to rule over a majority white population. I find it to be the height of suicidal apathy for whites to openly support a presidential candidate who openly affiliates with black nationalists like Rev. Wright and maintains membership in a black nationalist church.