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Re: Obama, O'Bomber or Oh, Bummer !! ?

And, if one is below the poverty line, I can think of no better place to be poor than here.

HC's, BO's, and JM's "plans" about what to do with the Israel/Pal. issue are very low on the totem pole for the people who will be voting for them.

Wise up to reality.
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Re: Obama, O'Bomber or Oh, Bummer !! ?

[quote=moon;1190501]No, America doesn't try 'to bring peace to the region' at all. America actively blocks attempts 'to bring peace to the region'. That's demonstrable. Check the UN veto list.

The economy, like the Iraq war, is a 'burning issue' with voters. Confronted with the obscene annual sums given in hand-outs to the Zionists people have no trouble at all in drawing comparisons with the semi-luxurious lifestyle of Zionists and that of the 1-in-10 Ohio residents who are currently using food stamps.

There are 40 million Americans below the poverty line.

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"A simple way to take measure of a country is to look at how many want
in... And how many want out."

Why don't you disect that number? The major portion of that number are those who WILL NOT work, those who choose to live on the dole, and those that rejected a free education. ( leaving people who cannot work and those that have met unfortunate employment circumstances)

You wise up.
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Re: Obama, O'Bomber or Oh, Bummer !! ?

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And, if one is below the poverty line, I can think of no better place to be poor than here.
and of course the democrats need them there and the View needs its audience....40 million breaks down to how many votes?
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and of course the democrats need them there and the View needs its audience....40 million breaks down to how many votes?
Poor people hardly ever vote.
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Re: Obama, O'Bomber or Oh, Bummer !! ?

I agree, they don't. They are disenfranchised by the attendants of poverty. I've been garbage-can poor. Nobody was interested in voting for about ten social levels above me.

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"A simple way to take measure of a country is to look at how many want
in... And how many want out."

Why don't you disect that number? The major portion of that number are those who WILL NOT work, those who choose to live on the dole, and those that rejected a free education. ( leaving people who cannot work and those that have met unfortunate employment circumstances)

You wise up.
You don't know what you're talking about.

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Re: Obama, O'Bomber or Oh, Bummer !! ?

Truly, O'Bombastic! Better than O'Bomber.

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Minn. Sen. Klobuchar Endorses Obama
Barack Obama picked up the endorsement of Minnesota Sen. Amy Klobuchar Sunday night, giving him another superdelegate supporter.

...Klobuchar, a freshman Democrat, said Obama speaks "with a different voice, bringing a new perspective and inspiring a real excitement from the American people." She compared him to the late Hubert Humphrey, who served as a senator from Minnesota and as vice president.
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Some Republicans Emerge To Endorse Obama | The New York Sun
With an eye to the general election and the Pennsylvania primary, some Republicans who oppose President Bush's war policy are endorsing Senator Obama.

Call them the Obamacans: They are against continuing the Iraq war and reject what they see as Mr. Bush's unconstitutional buildup of executive power. While the conservative Republican base rejected Senator McCain in the early primaries for his push for bipartisan campaign finance regulation and amnesty for illegal immigrants, the Arizona senator's hawkish support for the Iraq war has alienated what was once his national constituency, anti-Bush Republicans.

The Obamacans include a former senator of Rhode Island, Lincoln Chafee; a former senior Justice Department official under President Reagan and senior legal adviser to Mitt Romney's presidential campaign, Douglas Kmiec, and a granddaughter of President Eisenhower, Susan Eisenhower.
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Re: Obama, O'Bomber or Oh, Bummer !! ?

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I agree, they don't. They are disenfranchised by the attendants of poverty. I've been garbage-can poor. Nobody was interested in voting for about ten social levels above me.

Chassisman;


You don't know what you're talking about.


garage door poor? what does that mean...?

anyway ...if you are using the housing thing to make political hay, thats a loser....watch...you'll see.
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garage door poor? what does that mean...?
I have no idea what you're talking about and I'm not interested in your personal adjustments to everybody else's reality. If you want to sit smugly on your 'prophecies' for the housing collapse I'll be pleased to keep you informed all along the way.
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Re: Obama, O'Bomber or Oh, Bummer !! ?

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I have no idea what you're talking about and I'm not interested in your personal adjustments to everybody else's reality. If you want to sit smugly on your 'prophecies' for the housing collapse I'll be pleased to keep you informed all along the way.
Of course you have no idea what he's talking about becasue he's asking you a couple of questions. You don't answer those. One could wonder why you don't since it is normal to do so in a discusssion, but a lot no longer wonder.
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Re: Obama, O'Bomber or Oh, Bummer !! ?

An analysis of Obama, O'Bomber and Oh Bummer's allegiances to the Israel Lobby. You Tube video and comment from Frontline USA;

Frontline USA: Lobbying for Israel


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It is said to be the most powerful interest group in Washington DC - but what is the Israel lobby? And how exactly does it operate?

As the race to the White House heats up, there is one policy on which all the presidential candidates can agree - the US relationship with Israel.

Israel is the world's largest recipient of US aid, taking in roughly $3bn in direct assistance every year.

It is an aid relationship unlike any other in the world - and by far the most generous foreign aid programme ever between any two countries.

Yet for decades, the US has criticised Israel for its policy of building settlements on occupied Palestinian land.

Every president from Jimmy Carter to George Bush has warned Israel to put a halt to its settlement expansion - and yet the settlements continue to go up, and the aid money continues to pour in.


Al Jazeera English - Programmes - Frontline Usa: Lobbying For Israel
YOU TUBE video coverage.

Part One
YouTube - Frontline USA - Lobbying for Israel - 05 April 08 - Part 1

Part Two
YouTube - Frontline USA - Lobbying for Israel - 05 April 08 - Part 2

What is it that drives this US government hypocrisy of policy and why do the voters stand for it ? It seems evident that there is no reason which meets the usual criteria of policy logic. Something else is at work and that 'something else' works to prevent exposure and discussion at a level readily accessible to the American public.
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I have no idea what you're talking about and I'm not interested in your personal adjustments to everybody else's reality. If you want to sit smugly on your 'prophecies' for the housing collapse I'll be pleased to keep you informed all along the way.
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I agree, they don't. They are disenfranchised by the attendants of poverty. I've been garbage-can poor. Nobody was interested in voting for about ten social levels above me.

Chassisman;


You don't know what you're talking about.

I asked what garage door poor means as you posted that, I asked what that meant, now your response is you have no idea what I am talking about? You said it I didn’t.
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Re: Obama, O'Bomber or Oh, Bummer !! ?

A continuation of Moon's discussion of Israeli and related influence" as indicated below ....by skeptic1:



Frontline USA: Lobbying for Israel



Quote:
It is said to be the most powerful interest group in Washington DC - but what is the Israel lobby? And how exactly does it operate?

As the race to the White House heats up, there is one policy on which all the presidential candidates can agree - the US relationship with Israel.

Israel is the world's largest recipient of US aid, taking in roughly $3bn in direct assistance every year.

It is an aid relationship unlike any other in the world - and by far the most generous foreign aid programme ever between any two countries.

Yet for decades, the US has criticised Israel for its policy of building settlements on occupied Palestinian land.

Every president from Jimmy Carter to George Bush has warned Israel to put a halt to its settlement expansion - and yet the settlements continue to go up, and the aid money continues to pour in.


Al Jazeera English - Programmes - Frontline Usa: Lobbying For Israel

YOU TUBE video coverage.

Part One
YouTube - Frontline USA - Lobbying for Israel - 05 April 08 - Part 1

Part Two
YouTube - Frontline USA - Lobbying for Israel - 05 April 08 - Part 2

What is it that drives this US government hypocrisy of policy and why do the voters stand for it ? It seems evident that there is no reason which meets the usual criteria of policy logic. Something else is at work and that 'something else' works to prevent exposure and discussion at a level readily accessible to the American public.



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4. Jewish Delegates Could Be Key in Democratic Race

A disproportionately large number of Democratic superdelegates are Jewish, and they could prove crucial in deciding whether Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama wins the party’s nomination.

Thus far 36 Jewish superdelegates have declared for Clinton, while Obama has 12 Jewish superdelegates. But 26 Jewish superdelegates are among those who are still undeclared.

“If the Democratic presidential primary comes down to a photo finish, these Jewish insiders could play an outsized role in anointing a nominee at the party’s August convention,” according to the Forward, a Jewish publication that has conducted a new survey of Jewish superdelegates.

Superdelegates are largely elected officials and party officials, and the number of Jewish politicians has grown significantly in the past half-century. In 2006, 33 Jewish candidates were elected to Congress, up from 13 in 1950, the Forward reports.

And over the past 15 years, the Democratic National Committee has had three Jewish chairs.

One of those chairs, Massachusetts-based activist Steve Grossman, is now a Clinton fundraiser. And with Obama ahead of Hillary in pledged delegates and the popular vote, Grossman has sent out an open letter to DNC members urging them not to fall in behind Obama until all state contests are concluded.

Grossman told the Forward that if the result from the disputed Florida primary is counted, and Hillary does well in upcoming primaries, the overall results would be inconclusive and it would be the responsibility of superdelegates to vote their conscience.

The Forward also notes that Hillary has personally been doing some “heavy arm-twisting” in an effort to secure Jewish superdelegates
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I asked what garage door poor means as you posted that, I asked what that meant, now your response is you have no idea what I am talking about? You said it I didn’t.
You misread it. He said "Garbage can poor" not garage door poor.
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ah thank you I stand corrected.
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Re: Obama, O'Bomber or Oh, Bummer !! ?

Garage can poor means you get your dinner from a garage can. I doubt anyone here has experienced that unpleasant condition no matter what they claim.
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