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The real Hillary is exposed as the corrupt young woman she was.

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Watergate-Era Judiciary Chief of Staff: Hillary Clinton Fired For Lies, Unethical Behavior



As Hillary Clinton came under increasing scrutiny for her story about facing sniper fire in Bosnia, one question that arose was whether she has engaged in a pattern of lying.



The now-retired general counsel and chief of staff of the House Judiciary Committee, who supervised Hillary when she worked on the Watergate investigation, says Hillary’s history of lies and unethical behavior goes back farther – and goes much deeper – than anyone realizes.



Jerry Zeifman, a lifelong Democrat, supervised the work of 27-year-old Hillary Rodham on the committee. Hillary got a job working on the investigation at the behest of her former law professor, Burke Marshall, who was also Sen. Ted Kennedy’s chief counsel in the Chappaquiddick affair. When the investigation was over, Zeifman fired Hillary from the committee staff and refused to give her a letter of recommendation – one of only three people who earned that dubious distinction in Zeifman’s 17-year career.



Why?



“Because she was a liar,” Zeifman said in an interview last week. “She was an unethical, dishonest lawyer. She conspired to violate the Constitution, the rules of the House, the rules of the committee and the rules of confidentiality.”



How could a 27-year-old House staff member do all that? She couldn’t do it by herself, but Zeifman said she was one of several individuals – including Marshall, special counsel John Doar and senior associate special counsel (and future Clinton White House Counsel) Bernard Nussbaum – who engaged in a seemingly implausible scheme to deny Richard Nixon the right to counsel during the investigation.



Why would they want to do that? Because, according to Zeifman, they feared putting Watergate break-in mastermind E. Howard Hunt on the stand to be cross-examined by counsel to the president. Hunt, Zeifman said, had the goods on nefarious activities in the Kennedy Administration that would have made Watergate look like a day at the beach – including Kennedy’s purported complicity in the attempted assassination of Fidel Castro.



The actions of Hillary and her cohorts went directly against the judgment of top Democrats, up to and including then-House Majority Leader Tip O’Neill, that Nixon clearly had the right to counsel. Zeifman says that Hillary, along with Marshall, Nussbaum and Doar, was determined to gain enough votes on the Judiciary Committee to change House rules and deny counsel to Nixon. And in order to pull this off, Zeifman says Hillary wrote a fraudulent legal brief, and confiscated public documents to hide her deception.



The brief involved precedent for representation by counsel during an impeachment proceeding. When Hillary endeavored to write a legal brief arguing there is no right to representation by counsel during an impeachment proceeding, Zeifman says, he told Hillary about the case of Supreme Court Justice William O. Douglas, who faced an impeachment attempt in 1970.



“As soon as the impeachment resolutions were introduced by (then-House Minority Leader Gerald) Ford, and they were referred to the House Judiciary Committee, the first thing Douglas did was hire himself a lawyer,” Zeifman said.



The Judiciary Committee allowed Douglas to keep counsel, thus establishing the precedent. Zeifman says he told Hillary that all the documents establishing this fact were in the Judiciary Committee’s public files. So what did Hillary do?



“Hillary then removed all the Douglas files to the offices where she was located, which at that time was secured and inaccessible to the public,” Zeifman said. Hillary then proceeded to write a legal brief arguing there was no precedent for the right to representation by counsel during an impeachment proceeding – as if the Douglas case had never occurred.



The brief was so fraudulent and ridiculous, Zeifman believes Hillary would have been disbarred if she had submitted it to a judge.



Zeifman says that if Hillary, Marshall, Nussbaum and Doar had succeeded, members of the House Judiciary Committee would have also been denied the right to cross-examine witnesses, and denied the opportunity to even participate in the drafting of articles of impeachment against Nixon.



Of course, Nixon’s resignation rendered the entire issue moot, ending Hillary’s career on the Judiciary Committee staff in a most undistinguished manner. Zeifman says he was urged by top committee members to keep a diary of everything that was happening. He did so, and still has the diary if anyone wants to check the veracity of his story. Certainly, he could not have known in 1974 that diary entries about a young lawyer named Hillary Rodham would be of interest to anyone 34 years later.



But they show that the pattern of lies, deceit, fabrications and unethical behavior was established long ago – long before the Bosnia lie, and indeed, even before cattle futures, Travelgate and Whitewater – for the woman who is still asking us to make her president of the United States.
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Damn I know Hillary was a crooked liar but I never thought she would be this corrupt so early into her career.
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Re: The real Hillary is exposed as the corrupt young woman she was.

I wonder when this guy will shoot himself twice in the chest, while sitting on a park bench.
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Re: The real Hillary is exposed as the corrupt young woman she was.

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I wonder when this guy will shoot himself twice in the chest, while sitting on a park bench.
Using his right hand when he is a lefty?

Then I wonder how long it will take Hillary to get someone to bust into his office and steal whatever proof against her he has?
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Damn I know Hillary was a crooked liar but I never thought she would be this corrupt so early into her career.
She has BEEN a corruption since the day she was "born."

This article is no surprise at ALL.
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Re: The real Hillary is exposed as the corrupt young woman she was.

Hillary has the Clintonian penchant to tell some whoppers (as do politicians generally) and recently deserved a smack on the nose for the Tuzla puffery (I gave her a due drubbing for it on this site's thread on it), but Zeifman isn't credible and I don't suspect the GOP will cite his works. He claims to be a Democrat, but it's a Zell Miller tactic because it comes in handy for supporting (and in Zeifman's case, selling) anti-Democrat sawed off shotgun attacks. For example, he is a regular Newsmax opinion columnist who writes articles ripping Democrats and/or their leaders. But beyond that, he's a Lyndon LaRouche-in-reverse in his opinions and writings--in short, a nutjob too.

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Re: The real Hillary is exposed as the corrupt young woman she was.

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Hillary has the Clintonian penchant to tell some whoppers (as do politicians generally) and recently deserved a smack on the nose for the Tuzla puffery (I gave her a due drubbing for it on this site's thread on it), but Zeifman isn't credible and I don't suspect the GOP will cite his works. He claims to be a Democrat, but it's a Zell Miller tactic because it comes in handy for supporting (and in Zeifman's case, selling) anti-Democrat sawed off shotgun attacks. For example, he is a regular Newsmax opinion columnist who write articles ripping Democrats and/or their leaders. But beyond that, he's a Lyndon LaRouche-in-reverse in his opinions and writings--in short, a nutjob too.

E.g., from his website:



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loved the Lyndon LaRouche reference. What a freakin nutjob. I remember flying out of JFK in the 80's and getting practically assaulted by the nutty LaRouche followers on the way to LA. IIRC, they were really into conspiracy theories.. Then when I arrived at LAX the hairless Hari Krishna's were dancing in an hypnotic trance.... wow, what a trip that was!

At any rate, no one should be surprised to find that Hillary is capable of telling some real whoppers. The R's can easily come up with far more credible sources of her lies...starting with her own statements.
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loved the Lyndon LaRouche reference. What a freakin nutjob. I remember flying out of JFK in the 80's and getting practically assaulted by the nutty LaRouche followers on the way to LA. IIRC, they were really into conspiracy theories.. Then when I arrived at LAX the hairless Hari Krishna's were dancing in an hypnotic trance.... wow, what a trip that was!

At any rate, no one should be surprised to find that Hillary is capable of telling some real whoppers. The R's can easily come up with far more credible sources of her lies...starting with her own statements.
Exactly. There is more than enough material to criticise Hillary than citing crackpots.

Yeah, LaRouche and his fan club make a good argument why some people should get back on drugs rather than off them.





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loved the Lyndon LaRouche reference. What a freakin nutjob. I remember flying out of JFK in the 80's and getting practically assaulted by the nutty LaRouche followers on the way to LA. IIRC, they were really into conspiracy theories.. Then when I arrived at LAX the hairless Hari Krishna's were dancing in an hypnotic trance.... wow, what a trip that was!
OMG...what a bunch of morons! I feel sorry for anyone who comes accross the Hari Krishna lot, there's only so much you can tolerate in life and men in orange singing in airports and train stations is just too much! I've (thankfully by the sounds of it) never come accross any of the LaRouche lot!
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