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Old 04-07-2008
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McCain's Health and Mental Problems??

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....If he wins in November, McCain, 71, will be the oldest person elected to a first presidential term. That makes his health a reasonable concern of voters.
In 1999, well before the Republican primaries of 2000, McCain released 1,500 pages of health records, dating to his days in the Navy. Since then, however, he has gotten almost a decade older and, in August 2000, he underwent melanoma surgery. His refusal to release records covering that surgery and subsequent developments is troubling.

From his health history alone, it is clear that McCain is at a heightened risk of a recurrence of melanoma or other types of skin cancer. The New York Times, in a story published Sunday, cited a medical study of his particular category of melanoma that put his 10-year survival odds at about 65% at the time of his surgery. (Having survived at least five years with no known recurrence, his odds have risen substantially.).....
I believe he should release his medical records in order to wipe off the concerns about his health. At the age of seventy, one's mental situation is open to question, as well.

Just imagine what would hapen if his old mind decided to send troops into Iran, instead of Iraq?

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Along with his signature bright white hair, the most striking aspects of Senator John McCain’s physical appearance are his puffy left cheek and the scar that runs down the back of his neck. The marks are cosmetic reminders of the melanoma surgery he underwent in August 2000.
According to http://www.webmd.com/election2008/cc-john-mccain:

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In 1993, McCain had a cancerous mole removed from his shoulder. The mole was diagnosed as melanoma, the most serious form of skin cancer. He had a recurrence of skin cancer in 2000 and surgery to remove two melanoma lesions, one from his left temple and the other from his left arm.

McCain had a procedure to treat an enlarged prostate in 2001.

He smoked until age 45.
Maybe it is still not too late to wonder about McCain's mental problems.

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John McCain attempted suicide during his time as a POW. I can understand his mental health being in poor condition while in a prison camp, and I am sympathetic to his plight. However, that being said, there is NO way to determine the mental stability of this man, and how he will endure during the trying times ahead if he happens to stumble into the Republican nomination. This nation deserves a strong leader and not one that could have incapacitative psychiatric issues.
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Re: McCain's Health and Mental Problems??

I think that what is important is that he pick a strong and well qualified running mate.
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Re: McCain's Health and Mental Problems??

Wow, that's not exactly a vote of confidence in his health! Me and you agree on this, a best case scenario would be McCain picking a tough VP and then when he dies we can have an actual President we can support!
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It would not be unreasonable to suspect that his health may not hold up for the duration.
I honestly do wonder...why does he want it at his age?
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Re: McCain's Health and Mental Problems??

Well this will be his last race either way, if he wins he may choose to run for re-election in 2012 or may just serve the one term.

If he loses he won't run again or his Senate seat in 2010, so why not go out at the top when your political career is almost up anyway?
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I think that what is important is that he pick a strong and well qualified running mate.
Considering his well-known abusive temper and tremendous ego that could poise problems in finding anyone above doormat level willing to serve.
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Re: McCain's Health and Mental Problems??

Maybe it will be better for people supporting McCain to wait and see whom McCain will choose as his running mate because he/she might have to serve as a President.
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Considering his well-known abusive temper and tremendous ego that could poise problems in finding anyone above doormat level willing to serve.
The VP will sure not be as strong as Cheney is. McCain does not allow to be oveshadowed; even the idea of it.
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Maybe it will be better for people supporting McCain to wait and see whom McCain will choose as his running mate because he/she might have to serve as a President.
Well here's hoping anyway....
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I honestly do wonder...why does he want it at his age?
Because he's pissed that he didn't get the nomination in 2000
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I believe he should release his medical records in order to wipe off the concerns about his health. At the age of seventy, one's mental situation is open to question, as well.

Just imagine what would hapen if his old mind decided to send troops into Iran, instead of Iraq?

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According to http://www.webmd.com/election2008/cc-john-mccain:



Maybe it is still not too late to wonder about McCain's mental problems.
I'm hestitant to ask for a full disclosure of anyone's medical records due to the expected abuse and twisting of them. It's apparent even from this post and the citations that a main purpose is not to get the truth, but to distort or abuse medical histories for political attacks and/or looking to bootstrap such information recklessly into already desired conclusions that serve someone's political agenda.

For example, melanoma is something that the public is entitled to know. However, so long as doctors clear him, and he is asymptomatic now, that is also true. Yet, the conclusion I am being asked to draw from his melanoma is that he is physically unable to handle the job because of it.

One of the citations making the sales pitch that he isn't physically up to the job is that he smoked until he was 45. In fact, he loved cigarettes and states he still misses them every day.

That said, he hasn't contracted smoking related illnesses and quit a long time ago.

And Obama, btw, is a smoker who continues to do so. Does that mean he is more of a health risk for the job?

As for a supposed suicide attempt, he was a POW in a gruelling camp several decades ago. If that made him mentally ill, it seems clear it would have been noticed over the past several decades.

I'd also be very concerned about abusing the records to find embarassing details. If McCain, Obama or Hillary got a case of VD at some point of their life from a liaison when they were single or even from a spouse, had 'bathroom issues,' impotency, or whatever else could be embarrassing, I really think those things are none of the public's business. Ridiculing by enemies would also distract from examination of the merits of the candidates, and that is bad for public policy for picking the right candidates for the job.

Personally, I have a concern about McCain's age and what might happen whilst he is in office. A 71 year old person can have a clean bill of health today and a year down the line get afflicted with something and rapidly deteriorate and/or die. However, the age process and what can happen at certain ages is a commonly known observation and doesn't require a submission of a person's entire lifetime medical history. Hillary is also 60. Health problems can often start there too. Obama is in his late 40s and health problems can develop there too, just not as likely.

I wouldn't have an objection to any candidates submitting to a medical examination by an agreed independent and objective medical examiner to ascertain physical and mental health. I also wouldn't oppose asking for the release of any medical information that a reasonable objective person would need to know if the condition is one that does indeed raise a genuine concern of possible unfitness for office. I only see mischief afoot by asking for a full dumping of an entire medical history, though.

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Re: McCain's Health and Mental Problems??

Another sheriff attack on the man's age..........Boooooooring!

BTW, Sheriff, my father is 84 You will be old one day , that is if you're lucky.
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Re: McCain's Health and Mental Problems??

Aw leave the old codger alone.
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Re: McCain's Health and Mental Problems??

Remember when questions about McCain's mental health were dismissed by the MSLM as "Bush dirty tricks by Karl Rove" in 2000? Isn't it amazing now that he is the standard bearer (sadly) for the GOP against a prospective democratic opponent that it is now just another news story!
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Re: McCain's Health and Mental Problems??

Well considering the higher life expectancy now as compared to say some of our very early presidents – Adams 61 (lived to be 90), Jackson 61 (lived to be 78), and then Reagan was 69 when he took office ( lived to 93)....I’d say absent an exam that would provide some type of disease and or direct life threatening aliment, he’s okay. It’s probably over the average by several years, but that’s not in my mind a real issue.
And he will have to undertake a grueling campaign schedule so we’ll see how he holds up in any event.
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