Just watching some poll data. It looks like Hillary is closing in on Obama in N.C. & looks like she may be ahead in Indiana.

Just my opinion, but I really don't believe this would be happening if Pastor Wright wasn't introduced to the American public.

What on earth Oreo? Obama has never had a "lead" in Indiana so now sure how she caught up. There are polls that have her ahead and him ahead. As for NC he's still going to win by double digits. 40% if not more of the electorate is going to be African American. 65,000 new voters 18-26 have been registered in the state and he has had his early voting operation in effect since early April. North Carolina is his PA, the demographics all work for him. Indiana is going to be VERY close and I dont think we know yet whats going on.

I am however bemused that you believe American people are idiots and only choose a candidate based on Rev. Wright.

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Yesterday, John McCain actually said that if he’s president he’ll take on, and I quote, 'the old boys’ network in Washington.' I’m not making this up. This is somebody been in Congress for 26 years, who put seven of the most powerful Washington lobbyists in charge of his campaign. And now he tells us that he’s the one who’s gonna take on the old boys' network,” he said. “In the McCain campaign that’s called a staff meeting!- Obama, 9/17/2008

She is doing better in Indiana, but I think NC is a very long shot for her. It seems the demographics favor Obama. If she wins there, it will be a giant upset - seems doubtful.

But of course we have seen conventional wisdom consistently turned on its head in this election.

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Stick deep; in his royalty of nature
Reigns that which would be fear'd: 'tis much he dares;
And, to that dauntless temper of his mind,
He hath a wisdom that doth guide his valour
To act in safety."

Macbeth 3:1

Obama might win in Charlotte and Raleigh but he will lose everything else in the state. Maybe take the college towns like Chapel Hill but it will be just like PA. Hillary will win the rural areas. They might not count in a primaries but in a general election is a different story. Obama cannot become President without rural America. Rural America won't vote for a black man esp in the south unless the area has a large pop of black people. Being from the Carolina's I know there are three times as many white people in the country than blacks.

I am in wonder of how democrats could still consider Obama after Wright. People that attend church know how much influence a preacher, mentor or spiritual advisor as on a person as to how they live their lives and how they believe. If this is the case, how do we not know Obama is playing the "game" to get elected then after the true Marxist, Black Power traits come to life? He will be just another nigger with power and the mind set to get whitey for all the years of injustices shown to the black race or a graceful man of god who will unite the country and bring racial harmony?

Well if we go by what Wright has to say........

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Yesterday, John McCain actually said that if he’s president he’ll take on, and I quote, 'the old boys’ network in Washington.' I’m not making this up. This is somebody been in Congress for 26 years, who put seven of the most powerful Washington lobbyists in charge of his campaign. And now he tells us that he’s the one who’s gonna take on the old boys' network,” he said. “In the McCain campaign that’s called a staff meeting!- Obama, 9/17/2008

Well in the real world Obama spiritual advisor is a bigot and Marxists.

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Are you a spineless slave to political correctness?

Is that where the huge antennae came out his ass everytime he farted?

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Obama has done more harm to himself with his comments in SF than Hillary or Wright could ever do. He is going to go down in flames come Nov. Well, that is if he can stop Hillary from stealing the nomination...........

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change it." -- Barack Obama

Obama is going to win North Carolina in the Democratic primary and lose the state in the general election. It would take a miracle for either of those predictions to fail. That is because the state is majority Republican, but Republicans don't vote in the Dem primary, and an awful lot of the state's Democrats are Obama supporters.

Indiana is harder to call. Hillary has the lead there, but it's close, closer than Pennsylvania was certainly (or than NC is). That she'll win it is the way to bet, but it's not a sure thing. If she loses it, she's toast, she's history, it's over.

As far as Obama's general election chances, you guys need to bear in mind that, unlike elections of the recent past, there are some genuine real-world issues afloat in this one, where Obama and McCain differ very, very sharply. The differences in their campaign positions between Bush and either Gore or Kerry were microscopic. In 2000 particularly, if you only listened to their campaign positions, you'd think the two candidates disagreed only about the size of the tax cut they were going to make and the generosity of their prescription drug program for seniors. Big deal! Who cared? And that's why the election was so close that Bush could get away with stealing it in the Supreme Court; if either of those guys had been honest about what they intended to do as president, Gore w/r/t his environmentalism and Bush w/r/t a whole slew of things, it wouldn't have been nearly close enough to toss it to the court. And that was only slightly less so in 2004.

This year? Good God! Compare Obama and McCain on the economy, the environment, the war in Iraq, trade -- we've got a real issues-driven campaign in the makings, for the first time in a LONG time. And that means it's not going to be close, because on those issues the nation is not split 50-50 or even close. Down the list, Obama has the more popular positions on all the important issues. I think he also has the correct positions, but whether he does or not, he has the positions people will vote for.

If you folks believe that some words uttered five years ago by his former preacher are going to outweigh that in the minds of voters, you are living in fantasyland.

Speaking of "fantasyland"..... America is not going to elect a militant black socialist as POTUS. He is fatally flawed as a candidate and this will become more apparent as we get closer to the actual election. That is assuming he can even stave off the Clintons. Mark my words, if Obama is nominated, he will lose in McGovernesque proportions.

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change it." -- Barack Obama

Your words are marked, and I will remind you of them this November.

The problem with what you're saying is that most people don't see Obama as a "militant black socialist," and in fact he's neither militant nor a socialist, so their perception is accurate and yours is a wild exaggeration. I personally have no problem with Rev. Wright, but even those that do will, for the most part, be able to see the difference between him and Obama, even if Obama was a part of his church for years, because they do not have issue-based reasons to dislike him as you do.

I'll give you some more words to mark. If -- no, when Obama is nominated, he will defeat McCain like he was FDR and this was 1932. It won't even be close.

The Roosevelt landslide of 1932?

The words of a true believer.

Perhaps you are correct. In that case, Obama will win almost 58% of the popular vote and sweep the electoral map, winning 42 states - and of course at the time, there were only 48....

So you predict that the American population will throw away the patterns of several decades and embrace a far-left president whose intensely anti-business, anti-capitalist economic policies are, without question, a form of old-fashioned, retrogressive socialism, and who counts far-left militant radicals among his friends and closest personal advisors, even if he is not a miltant himself?

You are predicting that all of the south and all of the west will embrace a leftist president who makes Hillary Clinton look like a Republican?

That is an interesting - and quite terrifying - view of American life.

Perhaps it is the air in the bay area. But then again, you have "no problem" with Rev. Wright - a true, hate-filled fanatic.

Maybe a few days outside the hothouse left-wing bubble might help....

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"Our fears in Banquo
Stick deep; in his royalty of nature
Reigns that which would be fear'd: 'tis much he dares;
And, to that dauntless temper of his mind,
He hath a wisdom that doth guide his valour
To act in safety."

Macbeth 3:1

You're dreaming. How you arrived at that must have something to do with the ultra liberal city and culture in which you live.
Hello????? there is life outside of CA.........

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Something in that ballpark, although not necessarily the same states Roosevelt won.

Yes. I would use different language, of course. I would say that we are in desperate straits as a nation and the need for serious reform is obvious to most people, that Obama represents that reform while McCain represents business as usual, and people will therefore vote for Obama. In other times than these, that would probably not be so.

I will disagree with you that what he proposes is "socialism," however. Rather, we came to an agreement as a nation, in the grip of the last great civic crisis, that a mix of socialism and capitalism works better in most ways than a pure form of either one. The U.S. economy became such a mix, and those rule changes have never been repealed. But a workaround has been developed that wasn't foreseen: the ability to readily ship capital overseas to less-enlightened countries, employing sweatshop labor abroad while leaving it prohibited at home. At the same time, we are threatened by equally-unforeseen issues of resource shortage and environmental degradation. (There are also issues of global peacekeeping and challenges to our superpower role, but those are not strictly economic which is what you were discussing.) Obama proposes to restore the balance by correcting those unforeseen problems. What we end up with will still be a mixed economy, not a socialist one.

No, I said the state lineup would probably be different. In 1932, the South was still solidly Democratic because there were people alive who actually remembered the Civil War, and a lot more whose parents did and who drummed the stories of the evil Republicans into their ears from childhood. That's no longer so. Obama may take a few southern states but I expect most of them to go for McCain. However, he'll take all of the Northeast, the mid-Atlantic states, the industrial heartland, the West Coast, and a smattering of the interior west and southwest. The electoral vote may not be as lopsided as 1932, but the popular vote will probably be close to it.

We're in a Crisis era. It's a new ball game, one none of us have ever seen before. But not one the nation has never seen. I chose 1932 as the example deliberately.