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Tavis Smiley Seeks Relief from Crazed Obamites

I found the article by Black Agenda Report executive editor Glen Ford interesting and the following comments posted by it's readers even more interesting. Is the unconditional alleigance real or percieved?



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I don't exactly understand why some people are surprised that many prominent African Americans are not supporting Barack Obama. African Americans are (like all human beings) individuals and make up their mind for themselves. I know there's this popular narrative that African Americans are "sheep" for Barack Obama due to his race. That's just a little bit ridiculous and a little bit condescending. In fact, one wonders why there isn't an outrage over such comments as there was when Obama talked about people "clinging" to guns and religion.

Tavis Smiley's opposition to Obama is what makes the Democratic process great. It's what makes individual humanity great. Now what this ONE African American man has to say about ALL African American people...I'm not so sure.
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I don't exactly understand why some people are surprised that many prominent African Americans are not supporting Barack Obama. African Americans are (like all human beings) individuals and make up their mind for themselves. I know there's this popular narrative that African Americans are "sheep" for Barack Obama due to his race. That's just a little bit ridiculous and a little bit condescending. In fact, one wonders why there isn't an outrage over such comments as there was when Obama talked about people "clinging" to guns and religion.

Tavis Smiley's opposition to Obama is what makes the Democratic process great. It's what makes individual humanity great. Now what this ONE African American man has to say about ALL African American people...I'm not so sure.
I think you missed the point:
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.... But Obama's zealots do not accept anything less than abject, unqualified loyalty to their leader, whom they treat more as a messiah than a Chicago politician with close ties to Wall Street. Smiley suddenly found himself branded as "a hater, sellout and traitor" for questioning Obama's failure to appear on Smiley's "State of the Black Union" event. Finally, as syndicated radio host Tom Joyner put it, Smiley ended his 12-year association with Joyner's show because of "the hate he's been getting" from Joyner's audience. If they'll run Tavis Smiley out of Black radio, these are fanatics, indeed.

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It is a measure of the irrationality of Obamamania that such a non-threatening personality as Tavis Smiley would become an early, high-profile victim of this strange, mass psychosis. Smiley was driven to quit his spot on radio's syndicated Tom Joyner Morning Show by Obama zealots who have constituted themselves as a mob, sworn to eradicate from the Black public sphere all whose loyalties to the Great One are deemed questionable. The virtual stoning and exile from Black radio of Tavis Smiley is even more grotesque when it is remembered that, just a few years ago, only a handful among Obama's current legions of Black zealots had even heard of the Chicago politician. It seems like only yesterday that Tavis Smiley, the hyper-energetic Black information entrepreneur, appeared destined for permanent Black icon status, through his many radio, television and print media products. But Smiley violated the Obama mob's supreme commandment: Thou shalt not question Barack, period....
And much more. Indeed, the point was lost.
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Re: Tavis Smiley Seeks Relief from Crazed Obamites

the popular narrative is due to him taking 90% or better of the african american vote in every state

that is statistical not a narrative IMO
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the popular narrative is due to him taking 90% or better of the african american vote in every state

that is statistical not a narrative IMO
Imagine if McCain could automatically get 90% or better of the white vote in every state...............imagine! Now that'd be some widespread racism, huh?
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It is a measure of the irrationality of Obamamania that such a non-threatening personality as Tavis Smiley would become an early, high-profile victim of this strange, mass psychosis. Smiley
Sorry I'm tired of having to apologize for black people being excited about the prospect of the FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT IN AMERICAN HISTORY. Is Richard Daley not the mayor of Chicago? Like come the fuck on. It's never happened before, can we just let people be excited without calling it "reverse racism." Jesus. Yes they probably shouldnt have attacked Smiley but I think there are some strong and understandable emotions caught up in all of this.
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Imagine if McCain could automatically get 90% or better of the white vote in every state...............imagine! Now that'd be some widespread racism, huh?
the media and this board would fucking implode if this was the case with a old white dude in an election

no one cares now , its ok that blacks are only voting for a black guy its ok , i heard people saying it outright after S Carolina ....a very very racist state and that racism is both ways lived there for 3 years got called cracker and heard the N word used like numerous time like it was normal........and when this woman was recorded not one reporter i heard batted a eye on it . it was ok

hypocricy is a terrible thing, and i think until we as a nation can call it out we will never stop haveing race problems
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Sorry I'm tired of having to apologize for black people being excited about the prospect of the FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT IN AMERICAN HISTORY. Is Richard Daley not the mayor of Chicago? Like come the fuck on. It's never happened before, can we just let people be excited without calling it "reverse racism." Jesus. Yes they probably shouldnt have attacked Smiley but I think there are some strong and understandable emotions caught up in all of this.
sure they should be excited...but statistically if this was the other way around it would not be tolerated man it would be all sorts of fucked up

it would be great to see a minority president, a woman president but if people are voting for people based on thier color, or gender then i say that is a fucking stupid reason to vote for someone , and if that is the qualification people are looking at then they have some prejudices they need to deal with IMO
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I found the article by Black Agenda Report executive editor Glen Ford interesting and the following comments posted by it's readers even more interesting. Is the unconditional alleigance real or percieved?



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So that's what happened to Smiley. He is a big name in Chicago: big enough so that a large audience knows who he is.
He seemed to have disappeared.

He's got character. That fanaticism must be difficult to deal with, and more than a little frightening. And Smiley is not exactly a conservative.

One amusingly absurd bit: the reference to Obama's "close ties with Wall Street". His far-left policies are a nightmare to anyone who is pro-growth. He is not exactly popular there.
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I don't exactly understand why some people are surprised that many prominent African Americans are not supporting Barack Obama. African Americans are (like all human beings) individuals and make up their mind for themselves. I know there's this popular narrative that African Americans are "sheep" for Barack Obama due to his race. That's just a little bit ridiculous and a little bit condescending. In fact, one wonders why there isn't an outrage over such comments as there was when Obama talked about people "clinging" to guns and religion.

Tavis Smiley's opposition to Obama is what makes the Democratic process great. It's what makes individual humanity great. Now what this ONE African American man has to say about ALL African American people...I'm not so sure.
Do "US" a favor, call us America's...the majority have never been to Africa. The time I spent there sucked and I am glad I never had to live there and was over-joyed when I came home.. I am a AMERICAN! I was born and raised in South Carolina not Africa.
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sure they should be excited...but statistically if this was the other way around it would not be tolerated man it would be all sorts of fucked up
It feels wierd having to spell this out but, there have already been white male Presidents. All of them as a matter of fact. So yes, it is a different thing when a white voter is excited about electing a white president than when a black voter is excited about electing a black president. Why were the Irish allowed to do this with mayors. Why are Jews allowed to do this for Lieberman. Why is every group allowed to vote for their ethnic background without callign it racism EXCEPT for African Americans? I'm over it.
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Do "US" a favor, call us America's...the majority have never been to Africa and the time I spent there sucked and I am glad I never had to live there and was over-joyed when I came home.. I am a AMERICAN! I was born and raised in South Carolina not Africa.

Tavis speaks for me also.
I'm an African American. There's nothing "anti-American" about the term "African American." It doesnt imply where you grew up, if it did you would simply be called African (you know...kind of like the African people who live in America from Ghana, Kenya, Ethiopia etc. etc). What it does imply, is a history. African Americans have a unique historical experience in this nation. I'm not hear to recount that, we all have an idea of the story. And even if we differ we can not say that it isn't unique. What exactly is wrong with an identity that recognizes that unique history whille still acknowledging that people are American. It's not that hard dude.
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One amusingly absurd bit: the reference to Obama's "close ties with Wall Street". His far-left policies are a nightmare to anyone who is pro-growth. He is not exactly popular there.
You need to look at where his money is coming from.
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It feels wierd having to spell this out but, there have already been white male Presidents. All of them as a matter of fact. So yes, it is a different thing when a white voter is excited about electing a white president than when a black voter is excited about electing a black president. Why were the Irish allowed to do this with mayors. Why are Jews allowed to do this for Lieberman. Why is every group allowed to vote for their ethnic background without callign it racism EXCEPT for African Americans? I'm over it.
hmmm nice try at being condecending and a smart ass......STATISTICALLY is what i said , thanks for the civics class on how many white presidents there have been .....for fuck sake i am talking about if right now , today 90% or + of whites voted for mccain you would be ont his board whining daily about how that is racist as shit.

and if actually read peoples post which you dont since you are too full of self importance to notice, i state in this very thread that if anyone votes on the qualifier of being white , pink, chick, dude, herm

its a fucked up reason to vote for someone , and people that vote that way have some serious prejudice you need to deal with BTW it was the same post you just quoted
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I'm an African American. There's nothing "anti-American" about the term "African American." It doesnt imply where you grew up, if it did you would simply be called African (you know...kind of like the African people who live in America from Ghana, Kenya, Ethiopia etc. etc). What it does imply, is a history. African Americans have a unique historical experience in this nation. I'm not hear to recount that, we all have an idea of the story. And even if we differ we can not say that it isn't unique. What exactly is wrong with an identity that recognizes that unique history whille still acknowledging that people are American. It's not that hard dude.

This is what is wrong with some of the black America crowd. They put a country they have never stepped foot in before the country they were born in, has honored their human rights and guarantee freedom.

Show some respect. If you have never been to Africa maybe you should take the trip then come home to the greatest country on the earth. You will drop that BS "Africa" title from your identity fast.
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