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Can you show me where I have posted anything about OJ?

And talk about hypocrisy....didnt you liberals have Delay guilty before the first hearing?

That must be a hell of a knot on YOUR forehead.

BTW, no has yet posted anything showing where Rush was convicted felon as Johnny K posted. If you are going to spout off at least bring the facts with you.
Read the key phrase in my post. The door swings both ways. Neither side is innocent is my point. In the meantime, a GOP AK state lawmaker was just sentenced today for bribery. 3.5 years. He has gotten off the lightest of the 3 GOPers who have been convicted.
Kohring sentenced to 3˝years in prison: Alaska News | adn.com
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Read the key phrase in my post. The door swings both ways. Neither side is innocent is my point. In the meantime, a GOP AK state lawmaker was just sentenced today for bribery. 3.5 years. He has gotten off the lightest of the 3 GOPers who have been convicted.
Kohring sentenced to 3½years in prison: Alaska News | adn.com
What does that have to do with the price of onions in China?

We are talking Rush and no one has yet be able to post if he has any drug related convictions.

Johnny K claimed he did as he was spouting off his hate Rush nessage and I ask him to prove it. He cannot so it makes him untruthful. He is no better than Rush if he cannot prove and back up what he spouts.

BTW, just to let you know, I am no fan of Rush.

And if you want to play that game lets take a look at this.

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Bernie Ward admits to child porn in plea deal
Bob Egelko, Chronicle Staff Writer

Friday, May 9, 2008
(05-08) 18:49 PDT SAN FRANCISCO -- Bernie Ward, the most prominent liberal voice on Bay Area talk radio for more than two decades, admitted Thursday to distribution of child pornography by e-mail in a plea deal that will send him to federal prison for at least five years.
Bernie Ward admits to child porn in plea deal


Now if you want to talk about how crooked GOP'ers are, take a look at this liberal sick fuck.
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Now if you want to talk about how crooked GOP'ers are, take a look at this liberal sick fuck.
I agree he is a sick fuck and should get everything the justice system can throw at him. No doubt.

But you are comparing in this case, a talk radio personality versus a sitting state lawmaker who is but one of 3 GOPers found guilty already and serving federal time over thier bribery, corruption, extortion and conspiracy activities based around the state oil tax issues.

Neither party is right, as a matter of fact both are wrong. But to go way back to the reason you and I are having this exchange is that Rush in his radio comments said drug users need to be in prison. When in fact during that time, he was himself addicted to painkillers. Like him or not, this is blatant hypocrisy, and was possibly employing an illegal immigrant. The immigrant issue is disputed, but Rush's issue with Oxycodone and hydrocodone are well documented. The legal issues surrounding its use is very sketchy to say the least. I am going to assume, that if it was you or I in the same situation, we would have several felony convictions on our record. Rush to this point has skated free.
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Rush Limbaugh has a point. He said, "Obama is now the weakest of the Democrat nominees; he can win the educated, the snob elites, and the young, but not the working class, blue-collar voter".

Only in America is being an "elite" politician a bad thing. We hope that if and when we should get operated on, that we'll have an "elite" surgeon. Tiger Woods and Michael Jordan we love, because they are the "elite" in their fields. We want our kids to have the best and most "elite" teachers, hopefully. But Republicans have turned the word on it's head just as they've turned the word liberal on it's head over the last few decades. Nevermind that modern conservatism in America actually means neo-liberal-facism, what with invading countries on a whim, or spending taxpayer money more liberally than any other time in the history of the country.

So what gives? When I imagined Obama going to sleep next to his wife these last few weeks, I imagined a reasonned and intelligent man admitting to his wife that his problem is the fact that he's not dumb enough for most Americans. I wonder how he's dealing with that? I wonder what Barack and Michelle's intimate moments are like, right at this moment. What a hard truth they are having to face about their own country. A nation filled with fine and very hard-working people who mostly don't pay enough attention to the big picture.

Limbaugh has a point. The only constituency Obama hasn't won over in the Democratic primaries is the working-class vote, which Hillary has won handily. How? By pandering. What a sad statement it is about a country that so many of her voters are convinced that eliminating the gas tax for the summer is the best option. What a con.

I like Obama. If he becomes President, the world will at least be able to admit that America chose better this time. But you can't win the White House without the "hick" vote. The working-class vote. The blue collar vote. Whatever it is that you want to call that huge swash of Americans who work their asses off for the smallest piece of the pie. They've been conned for so long that the only candidates they respond to are the ones who con them the best and in the most clever ways.

It isn't about what you stand for or your ideas to these people. It's all about if you walk and talk like them. How sad. Obama is a really good man. He's "with it" about most policy issues, and he's very brave for having as part of his stump speech the fact that the problems in America are so huge that gay marriage ought to really take a back seat right now.

I think it's laughable the idea that if Hillary loses that her supporters won't fall in line with Obama, but on the other hand, I wouldn't put it past many idiots these days to just stay home or to vote precisely against their interests by going with John McCain.

I don't agree with Rush on much, but on the working-class vote, I completely agree with him.
Only one thing to do. Time for Obama to ditch the campaign bus and get a pick up truck.
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