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Have ever asked W if his God really told him to invade Iraq?
sure did, congress and god were on board...
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Re: Barack, The Unstoppable

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I'll take your word for it, but it's going to be kinda hard to believe you if you keep claiming that Obama is "anything but naive in politics".

When you ignore the obvious it's hard not to be taken for a cheerleader.

The man is clearly one the most naive and amateur upper-tier politicians this country has seen in a long time and he's very lucky his campaign hasn't imploded yet.

But, he's dynamic, charismatic, elequent, doesn't have much of an official voting record (and what does exist has been pretty much party-line against the legislative agenda of the most unpopular president since Harry Truman), and he's been able to get out the black and youth votes like nobody's business.

He has plently going for him. So much so that I actually voted Democrat (and for him) in the primary for the first time in my life.

But a lack of naïveté can hardly be considered one of his strong points.
Somehow, your avatar has aroused my respect towards you.

Barack showed he is not naive in politics by standing against America's strongest family in politics and winning against them.

Did Edwards have the same chance against Clintons?
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Re: Barack, The Unstoppable

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sure did, congress and god were on board...
W was able to befool both the American public and the Congress... How was he able to befool his own particular, Israel-first Neo-Con God?
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Re: Barack, The Unstoppable

Bush didn't fool his God; he misinterpreted his God's entire philosophy, or was reading the Koran. One of the two.

As for Barack Obama, I think he looks stronger than McCain at this point. This guy has been having to face the Clinton's, the McCain's, the White House, and the media lately with the Rev.Wright crap, so imagine how good he'll be at mowing down McCain with both arms free. How's McCain going to survive with his stagnant foreign policy plans that have no exit strategy? I think it'll stay pretty close until late in September, and then Obama will surge after the debates. Give McCain Florida at this point, but Ohio and Pennsylvania should swing to the Dems this time, and so too will places like West Virginia and possibly even Nevada or Colorado now.

Right now I'm going to say that it'll be Obama 53% and McCain 46%. The Dems are just too energized everywhere, and Obama's got like over a million volunteers now or something. It's crazy.
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Re: Barack, The Unstoppable

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Bush didn't fool his God; he misinterpreted his God's entire philosophy, or was reading the Koran. One of the two.
Maybe he was reading his own New Testament?
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Re: Barack, The Unstoppable

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Give McCain Florida at this point, but Ohio and Pennsylvania should swing to the Dems this time, and so too will places like West Virginia and possibly even Nevada or Colorado now.


You're kidding, right?

West Virginia to go for Barack?



I guess you missed the fact that Hillary has a 43 point advantage over Obama in the polls there?

Forty-three points.

Yeah, WV's gonna go for Barack... Riiiiight.

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I guess you missed the fact that Hillary has a 43 point advantage over Obama in the polls there?

Forty-three points.

Yeah, WV's gonna go for Barack... Riiiiight.

Matt
Hillary won't be in the election against Obama in November, which is what he was talking about. It's very possible that WV will go for Obama against McCain, although you're right that it won't against Clinton. WV went for the Democrat in 1988, 1992, and 1996, and was close in 2000 and 2004. Very possible, likely even if this election is the blowout I'm expecting.
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Re: Barack, The Unstoppable

Back to the thread topic:

Barack Obama has already begun campaigning for November elections, mobilizing his massive grassroots support in key areas like PA.

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Obama backers set sights on November - The Boston Globe
Senator Barack Obama's Massachusetts supporters began focusing their efforts on the November election yesterday, fanning out to busy areas in Boston to register voters, even as the candidate's Democratic primary campaign against Senator Hillary Clinton continued...

The registration drive in Massachusetts, where Clinton handily won the February primary, was one of 100 similar events across the country yesterday, the campaign said.
Barack's biggest advantage over his main rival is his tremendous volunteer base that is well-positioned, trained and passionate. This what McCain lacks in this election season. Look at the exitement level of both campaigns... McCain is far from the level of volunteer mobilization and contribution that W had enjoyed in 2000 and 04 elections. This might give chicken-hawks lots of headache.

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KOTA Territory NewsObama supporters keep election on the forefront
He [Barack Obama] hasn't campaigned in South Dakota, yet, but presidential hopeful Barack Obama's supporters are keeping him on the forefront in KOTA Territory.

Obama volunteers are busy going door-to-door, or calling registered Democrats to make sure they go out and vote on June third.

It's part of a national 'vote for change", voter registration drive.

Volunteers in Rapid City plan to encourage voters to get involved in the historic race.
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The Barack Obama campaign announced Friday that it will open a campaign headquarters in Butte, bringing the total number of offices across the state to eight.

The campaign office, located at 128 West Granite Street, will serve as a base for outreach in southwestern Montana.

... "As Montana's critical June 3rd primary gets closer, we are excited to open a headquarters for those supporters and to continue outreach into Butte America and the surrounding counties."
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Re: Barack, The Unstoppable

Tim reur:

"Screaming and carrying on and crying and jumping up and down at rallies is the point. Babbling about hope and change and hope and change is the point. Gushing interviews on Oprah is the point. Sentimentality is the point."

"In all cases, without exception, those who worship Obama refuse to acknowledge he is human. I have never seen anyone who worships him admit he is even capable of being wrong - let alone that there is a policy they disagree with. He is perfect. Criticism and even discussion are even forbidden. He is a pseudo-religious figure."

You are by your words IMO confusing worship with "admiration" condemning "hope" as something distasteful and in effect lumping over half of the American voters into a cohesive group (of commoners) that somehow you fear might wrest control from the "pseudo aristocrats" (royals) you favor.

The thoughts you express bring to mind what could be the marching song of the reformation;

Written by harry macgregor woods


Oh! we aint got a barrel of money

Maybe were ragged and funny

But well travel along

singing a song

Side by side



I dont know whats a-comin tomorrow

Maybe its trouble and sorrow

But well travel the road

Sharing our load

Side by side



Thru all kinds of weather

What if the sky should fall

Just as long as were together

It really doesnt matter at all



When theyve all had their quarrels and parted

Well be the same as we started

Just traveling along

Singing a song

Side by side
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Re: Barack, The Unstoppable

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You are by your words IMO confusing worship with "admiration" condemning "hope" as something distasteful and in effect lumping over half of the American voters into a cohesive group (of commoners) that somehow you fear might wrest control from the "pseudo aristocrats" (royals) you favor.
Very well said. I don't detect no harm in someone's admiration to Barack. Would it bother some if people liked W as much?
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Very well said. I don't detect no harm in someone's admiration to Barack. Would it bother some if people liked W as much?
My Gandson likes W and it bothers me to a degree but we discuss our favorites with smiles on our face . He is now inactive Navy Air !
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Re: Barack, The Unstoppable

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Barack's biggest advantage over his main rival is his tremendous volunteer base that is well-positioned, trained and passionate.
If they were well trained, they would be able to provide reasons why one should vote for Obama. Thus far, if you're any indication, they're only capable of offering reasons why some shouldn't vote for McCain, and incapable of offering reasons to vote for Obama...

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This what McCain lacks in this election season. Look at the exitement level of both campaigns... McCain is far from the level of volunteer mobilization and contribution that W had enjoyed in 2000 and 04 elections.
One of the main reasons for this is that the media isn't covering McCain with any depth right now. He's got his nomination (so theres no "news" there), while Obama is still fighting for his...
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Re: Barack, The Unstoppable

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You are by your words IMO confusing worship with "admiration" condemning "hope" as something distasteful and in effect lumping over half of the American voters into a cohesive group (of commoners) that somehow you fear might wrest control from the "pseudo aristocrats" (royals) you favor.
Commoners?
In your dreams.

Obama is the favored choice of America's self-appointed elite: the guardians of journalism and academia and now the congress. They are the true royals of our nation, and Obama is their beloved one, their god: the distilled essence of letist elitism, ready and waiting to tell the entire nation how to live and what to think and, especially, ready and waiting to steal bllions from Americans in oder to fund mammoth social programs which will break the economy.

The absolute refusal to acknowledge that he is human and the willingness to surrender their wills to him is truly frightening. Even here, not a single person is willing to deal with the ramifications of even one policy.

All of this fatuous hysteria is utterly without content.



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The thoughts you express bring to mind what could be the marching song of the reformation;

Written by harry macgregor woods


Oh! we aint got a barrel of money

Maybe were ragged and funny

But well travel along

singing a song

Side by side



I dont know whats a-comin tomorrow

Maybe its trouble and sorrow

But well travel the road

Sharing our load

Side by side



Thru all kinds of weather

What if the sky should fall

Just as long as were together

It really doesnt matter at all



When theyve all had their quarrels and parted

Well be the same as we started

Just traveling along

Singing a song

Side by side
The Reformation?

In the 16th century?

What on earth are you talking about?

As for "barrels of money" - Obama's campaign is rolling in bucks, and his followers are hardly a ragtag band of frolicsome, naive, cuddly ragamuffins, making their way as best they can down life's highway...

They are the wealthy, sef-satisfied and priveleged left-wingers who have dominated the intellectual and social life and most of the political life of this nation since 1930.

The flamboyant idiocies and smug self-deception of the 60s are back, in full force: the far left loves to promote itself as just stuffed with "love" and "hope" and "idealism". This is too nauseating: the true impact of far-left policies on this nation assuming that Obama wins will smah the economy like a matchbox, while all of you are congratulating each other on how stuffed with "love" you are.

And not one of the Obama followers who gurgle and squeal and prostrate themselves before him have the courage or the willingness to address his policies and their potential effects. Not one - shameless.
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What would you like to hear from Barack's fanatical supporters? His whole policy agenda? It is on sale in amazon.com.

One short answer: Barack will do just the opposite W has been doing for the past 8 years.

W, too, was everyone's President but he did not listen to what Cindy Sheanen tried to put in his "W" head.

Who cares if Barack does not listen to few of you?
Ah! You tipped you hand....and of course, it is not a "few" of us, but tens of millions who are not on the far left.

That is always the way, isn't it, with the leftist politicians who run on platforms of sentimental hysteria and prattle on about how loving and hopeful they are?

The flip side of all that sloppy leftist sentiment and misty-eyed claptrap is always ruthless contempt for anyone who thinks independently and dares to question or disagree with the secular god beloved by the left.

So at least you have admitted it: there is no place for those who dare to question or disagree with Obama.

Interesting - and quite frightening.
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Re: Barack, The Unstoppable

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Obama is the favored choice of America's self-appointed elite: the guardians of journalism and academia and now the congress. They are the true royals of our nation, and Obama is their beloved one, their god: the distilled essence of letist elitism, ready and waiting to tell the entire nation how to live and what to think and, especially, ready and waiting to steal bllions from Americans in oder to fund mammoth social programs which will break the economy.

The absolute refusal to acknowledge that he is human and the willingness to surrender their wills to him is truly frightening. Even here, not a single person is willing to deal with the ramifications of even one policy.

All of this fatuous hysteria is utterly without content.
Amen. The entire Obama "phenomenon" seems to revolve around an idea that he will magically fix everything in the US and end its culture wars by making everyone agree with each other (or something, I can't get a straight answer out of the Obamabots.) Because all the problems in his country can be solved by pretending that everyone can, will and should agree.

Obama simply doesn't have the experience to be a good president. If elected, he would be making his first inevitable errors as the most powerful person in the world. He doesn't have the political connections to make a difference, even if it was clear what he wanted to do.
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