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Old 05-10-2008
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Barack, The Unstoppable

Having won in NC and giving Hillary a narrow escape in IN, Barack Obama is now collecting a good amount of superdelagate and union support; a healthy sign of a unified Democrats.

Even Hillary herself hinted that she would support whoever the nominee be. This sends the whole load of Republican conspiracy into the trash bin.

It will be a hard fight and this time Republicans will find a very resoulte, strong-willed and broadly-supported Democratic rival; a very different opponent from John Kerry.

Barack has shown he is anything but naive in politics and this time the Democrats will be able to nibble the Republican candidate's old ass easily. You will see, it will be that easy.

Back to the ever-broadening support Obama receives from many different power-centers:

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Obama picks up 9 superdelegates, union nod - Barack Obama News - MSNBC.com
...the American Federation of Government Employees announced its support for Obama. The union claims about 600,000 members who work in the federal and Washington, D.C., governments.
Barack is likely to outspend his ancient rival during election period:

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McCain likely to be outspent in election - John McCain News - MSNBC.com
He backs an unpopular war in Iraq, represents an unpopular political party and is endorsed by an unpopular president in the midst of an economic downturn.

As if that's not enough, Republican John McCain could be heavily outspent by his Democratic rival in the U.S. election in November to succeed President George W. Bush.

For every $1 the Arizona senator has raised, Democrat Barack Obama has raised $3. Hillary Clinton, unlikely at this point to beat Obama for the Democratic nomination, has raised two and a half times as much as McCain.
"I can't emphasize enough how terrible the political environment is for Republicans," said one Republican strategist who requested anonymity to speak candidly. "It is dreadful."

McCain raised $77 million through the end of March, campaign finance records show. Obama raised $235 million by that point, while Clinton raised $189 million.
As for the superdelagate support, Barack is now only four point behind Clinton: Politics - News, Opinion and Analysis from CNN.com

Superdelagates: 268

Superdelagates: 272

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Re: Barack, The Unstoppable

I'm an Obama supporter and we need to stop being sore winners. Reach out to Hillary voters because we need them.
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Re: Barack, The Unstoppable

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I'm an Obama supporter and we need to stop being sore winners. Reach out to Hillary voters because we need them.
You are quite right. That's why I emphasize on the fact that Democrats are ready to -- and have already been-- get unified under one strong name: Barack Obama.

I respect Hillary supporters and if just the opposite had happened, they would now find me beside them. Ours is a party of ideals, not ideologies.
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Re: Barack, The Unstoppable

Funny though some polls have as much as 50% of Hillary supporters not voting or supporting McCain.

Dont cry boys, oneday there will be a democratic President again......LOL
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Funny though some polls have as much as 50% of Hillary supporters not voting or supporting McCain.

Dont cry boys, oneday there will be a democratic President again......LOL
Republicans were quite wrong when they nominated an archaic, tainted man for Presidency. McCain does not have one ounce of charisma and demonstartiveness that W has.

So, when it comes to the nominees, Republicans should not take for granted that Americans are willing to elect whoever comes from Republican elite party.

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Even Hillary herself hinted that she would support whoever the nominee be. This sends the whole load of Republican conspiracy into the trash bin.
and uhm what conspiracy is that pray tell?
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and uhm what conspiracy is that pray tell?
Republicans are good at living in a daydream; one of them being that Democrats are divided.
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maybe, but whats at play is the moderates and center dems......and mcCain can pull those, its all in how they play it. Thats not a conspiracy thats a fact. I'd guard against over optimimism too, when the nomination is over he'll have to adjust his message, you'll see.
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maybe, but whats at play is the moderates and center dems......and mcCain can pull those, its all in how they play it. Thats not a conspiracy thats a fact. I'd guard against over optimimism too, when the nomination is over he'll have to adjust his message, you'll see.
That's a conspiracy, knowing that conspiracies are based on diluted-facts. I haven't seen a conspiracy without few-ounce of fact in it.

It would be another conspiracy if I argued that Barack might pull the alienated Republicans, alienated because of McCain's softness toward liberals.
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diluted facts?

No your second point is just reading the political electoral cycle tea leaves, saying that McCain may lose votes from fed up reps. is a genuine truth....


Just as obama has been a wide eyed lib. he may not get or lose folks who are tired of the entitlement mentality.
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Guess someone has forgotten the "Operation Chaos" silliness, eh?

Just because it was another hardcore rightie miserable failure doesn't erase it from history.

Gonna be a long 8 years for the "conservatives."

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Re: Barack, The Unstoppable

You may be correct about this being unstoppable. Hysterics and melodrama and celebrity culture are a potent and frightening combination. There is almost no substance to the campaign, but there is plenty of emotion - and today, with the help of 24 hour media - all of that emotion can give the impression of a juggernaut.

You are quite wrong, of course, about Obama's naivete. He is stunningly naive. He is also off-the-cliff left. But none of that is really the point.

Hysteria is the point.

Screaming and carrying on and crying and jumping up and down at rallies is the point. Babbling about hope and change and hope and change is the point. Gushing interviews on Oprah is the point. Sentimentality is the point.

In all cases, without exception, those who worship Obama refuse to acknowledge he is human. I have never seen anyone who worships him admit he is even capable of being wrong - let alone that there is a policy they disagree with. He is perfect. Criticism and even discussion are even forbidden. He is a pseudo-religious figure.

This is how we will choose our next president. It is very, very frightening. And it is far more frightening that the vast majority of people do not care. They want to surrender their wills and let someone else make decisions for them.

Unbelievable.
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Guess someone has forgotten the "Operation Chaos" silliness, eh?

Just because it was another hardcore rightie miserable failure doesn't erase it from history.
and those who pay no attention to op chaos or its enabler could care less, as matter of fact I cannot remember a thread on op "chaos".. maybe I was shining up my gun and heading to church, well that is after running over a few mexicans...?


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Gonna be a long 8 years for the "conservatives."

keep that thought. Cause thats all it gonna amount too...
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Re: Barack, The Unstoppable

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You may be correct about this being unstoppable. Hysterics and melodrama and celebrity culture are a potent and frightening combination. There is almost no substance to the campaign, but there is plenty of emotion - and today, with the help of 24 hour media - all of that emotion can give the impression of a juggernaut.

You are quite wrong, of course, about Obama's naivete. He is stunningly naive. He is also off-the-cliff left. But none of that is really the point.

Hysteria is the point.

Screaming and carrying on and crying and jumping up and down at rallies is the point. Babbling about hope and change and hope and change is the point. Gushing interviews on Oprah is the point. Sentimentality is the point.

In all cases, without exception, those who worship Obama refuse to acknowledge he is human. I have never seen anyone who worships him admit he is even capable of being wrong - let alone that there is a policy they disagree with. He is perfect. Criticism and even discussion are even forbidden. He is a pseudo-religious figure.

This is how we will choose our next president. It is very, very frightening. And it is far more frightening that the vast majority of people do not care. They want to surrender their wills and let someone else make decisions for them.

Unbelievable.
Barack himself says he is not perfect. He repeated it in his NC victory speech, besides. So, here, you are either lying to us or enjoying your ignorance.

Barack followers know that he is human and prone to make mistakes. I have not seen any supporter thinking that God told Barack to invade Iraq. Hadn't W's God told himto do so?

In Barack's campaign, emotion and wisdom go hand in handand politics is nothing but a proportionate mixture of inspiration and intelliegence.

Was not it W who brought US politics pure emotionalism and rhetoric?
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Re: Barack, The Unstoppable

Barack is a politician like all the others. His doe-eyed followers are in for quite a let-down once reality sets in.

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