No, that's not what I'm advocating at all. But thanks for parsing out part of my post and then putting words in my mouth. That's a remarkably effective strategy!

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Remember the Mon and Pop store? now replaced by the big box store with the employee that knows frak about what you are trying to buy?

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I bake my own bread.

I can't even remember the last time I bought a gallon of milk.

I'll pay the price that the market will bear. Of course, maybe we could stop paying farmers not to grow crops? That'd help with food prices, too.

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The goods that go into making your bread 4times as much...... ready for that?

What about the family that is making 17k a year? ready to pay more taxes to help them?

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Read HR143 get enlightment.

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Probably taught by the pros, too:



Do you not buy groceries at all?

Everything in a grocery store will go up, significantly, in price, including the ingredients you'll have to buy to bake your own bread...

I suspect it won't be a 400% increase, but yes.

Sure. But, I'd prefer that we take the tax subsidies we pay to farmers who aren't growing crops, or to farmers who grow tobacco, or similar bullshit subsidies and redirect them that way first.

I'm more for increases in efficiency than increases in taxes.

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Staun mah grun, an be na afraid.
Thochts ae hame tak awa mah fear
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No idea who these people are. I assume that this is another "you're gay" insult?



Oh, and it was my grandmother that taught me to bake bread.


Already addressed. Thanks for keeping up.

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Thochts ae hame tak awa mah fear
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Government efficiencies over tax and spend?

Must be nice to have a trust fund to pull from when one needs money.

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Read HR143 get enlightment.

The Revolution Will not be Televised

Yes, government efficiencies over tax and spend. Why does that bother you?


Oh, and there's no trust fund here. I've had a job ever since I was 14. I've worked very hard for a long time. I also know how to manage a budget.

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It does not bother me, government efficiencies, it is more of when have there been efficiencies with in the government?

If ones income stays where it is and the cost of goods and services goes up 3times.. just what is that going to do to your budget?

It has been a Very long time from the last time that the Feds lived within a budget......

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Read HR143 get enlightment.

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If you mean by that, "this won't return us to the days of cheap oil," you're right. Nothing else will, either. Those days are gone, and they're never coming back. The sooner we face that reality, and stop deceiving ourselves that we can restore the good old days by allowing drilling in environmentally-sensitive areas or by putting pressure on OPEC or in any other fashion, the sooner we can try to implement the only solution there is: increased efficiency plus alternative energy.

Maybe I'm just too optimistic - I see the possibilities for change. I don't disagree with your points, though.

If the cost of food goes up three-fold, my budget will shift. I will spend less money for clothing, entertainment, etc. I will shift my cooking to less expensive ingredients - less meat, more grains and vegetables. I'll drink less beer.

See? If that isn't commitment, I don't know what is!

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I think that's the key factor. Efficiency is something that has been all but overlooked. I suspect that some of the most lucrative investments for the next 50 years will be in those businesses that are developing new ways to increase efficiency.

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You really hate poor people, don't you.

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Let us not forget the cost of local government going up. And when they have cost increases they pass it on to us by increasing property taxes, States increase income taxes all the while pay stays the same unless one works for the government.

The cost of natural gas , home heating oil, elect all going up with the price of oil going up.

Just how many out there have the $$$ to go out with in the next few months to go solar? Wind? or some Hybr car?

Yes we need to get off the Oil, but there needs to be some thing in the time from now to that day, with out it the poor are going to be hit the hardest.

Mon and Pop stores going out of business.... the little cafe closed, the small farm sold... the small fishing boat under corp control... the single trucker a slave to the corp trucking company.

Remember when 80% of business had less than 3 employees? gone to the corp slaves...

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Government Should Fear the People That Voted Them In!!

New Government=one that the President likes a GOP idea but then the Staff puts that Idea in a very DEEP HOLE.

Read HR143 get enlightment.

The Revolution Will not be Televised