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Old 05-11-2008
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Re: Remember when..........

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Well, if you want to actually participation in a discussion as opposed to just throwing verbal spitwads, yes, it is your problem.

How is wanting a higher price of oil/gas to give us a market incentive to get off the black stuff "robbing Peter to pay Paul"? How is it "not solving anything"?

These are not rhetorical questions. What the hell are you talking about? That's not a rhetorical question, either, although it usually is.
He stated that he'd be okay paying higher prices on other things instead of gasoline. Either way, he's paying higher prices for something...
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Old 05-11-2008
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Now here is one idea.

The Feds are willing to pony up money so that you and I can have the HD tv... what if the Feds where to pony up for some thing like the Hydro 4000 so that any one with a car or truck could get up to 30% better mpg?
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Re: Remember when..........

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He stated that he'd be okay paying higher prices on other things instead of gasoline. Either way, he's paying higher prices for something...
No, he didn't say that. He acknowledged that a higher price for gasoline would also mean a higher price for just about everything else. It wasn't raising prices on other things in order to get the price of gas down.
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Old 05-11-2008
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Re: Remember when..........

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they do pay their share, when they shell out for gas how are they not paying the market price for gasoline that you do?

BTW way, I have a supercharged 5.4-liter, 32-valve V8 and it’s the bomb, I pay for supreme to drive it, that’s on me.
ya i would get boned under this.

I have a 50 MPG Jetta TDI its economical its the rave it coast me $50 fucking dollars to fill up now..............with this method it would cost me $75 to do the right thing and get fucked for it
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hey thats a nice looking car. Whats she do zero to 60 in?
Right around 5.5.....not that I would know
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ya i would get boned under this.

I have a 50 MPG Jetta TDI its economical its the rave it coast me $50 fucking dollars to fill up now..............with this method it would cost me $75 to do the right thing and get fucked for it

My F250 Diesel V8 Turbo is costing me 120 twice a week. My route trucks run around 150 to 175 each. My monthly fuel bill is more than my mortgage. Its to start charging delivery fees.

If they want it, they are going to have to pay for it.
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Old 05-11-2008
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If I recall gas was 2.34 a gallon when the dems took control of congress..
So unlike the president, who has no control over the price of gas, congress can just pass a law that brings it back to 28 cents a gallon (oh, gas wars of my youth, where have you gone).
OK let me interject this random memory here, right before the energy embargo, competition had become so intense between gas stations that we had "Gas Girls", you would pull into the Gulf station next to the Pig 'n Whistle Diner in Brighton, and FIVE smoking hot babes in halter tops and hot pants would surround your car, checking the tire pressure, checking your oil, washing every window on the car, and this is before they even asked you if you wanted gas. Of course for that you paid a hefty 32 cents a gallon.
OK, back to thread..

The only reason that Bush might be getting some blame is that the OP is about Candidate Bush blaming President Clinton for "high" gas prices.
It was Bush that said a president should do something about high gas prices and implied, heck flat out said, that if he were president gas prices would be lower because as president he would do something about it.

So it was Bush himself that set the bar on this one, not the "liberal left".
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So unlike the president, who has no control over the price of gas, congress can just pass a law that brings it back to 28 cents a gallon (oh, gas wars of my youth, where have you gone).
OK let me interject this random memory here, right before the energy embargo, competition had become so intense between gas stations that we had "Gas Girls", you would pull into the Gulf station next to the Pig 'n Whistle Diner in Brighton, and FIVE smoking hot babes in halter tops and hot pants would surround your car, checking the tire pressure, checking your oil, washing every window on the car, and this is before they even asked you if you wanted gas. Of course for that you paid a hefty 32 cents a gallon.
OK, back to thread..

The only reason that Bush might be getting some blame is that the OP is about Candidate Bush blaming President Clinton for "high" gas prices.
It was Bush that said a president should do something about high gas prices and implied, heck flat out said, that if he were president gas prices would be lower because as president he would do something about it.

So it was Bush himself that set the bar on this one, not the "liberal left".
Yeh, Bush never should've said that. It was definitely a stupid thing to say. What's equally stupid is the libs who now blame him for not doing it, considering he never could...
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Yeh, Bush never should've said that. It was definitely a stupid thing to say. What's equally stupid is the libs who now blame him for not doing it, considering he never could...
But there are things he could have done, that he's refused to do.
He could have stopped the filling of the Strategic Petroleum reserve, and sold the oil the government receives as royalties on the open market.
This wouldn't bring the price down by much, but it would be doing something.
Every action Bush has taken has put upward pressure on the price of oil.

And it was Bush himself who said it.
So now we are stupid for blaming him for not doing what he said he'd do?
We are just pointing out what he said, so that the idiots who believed him will think twice about believing what John McCain says.
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So now we are stupid for blaming him for not doing what he said he'd do?
When you consider the fact that, regardless of what he said, he never could've done it, yeah, it's pretty fuckin' stupid...
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Re: Remember when..........

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He stated that he'd be okay paying higher prices on other things instead of gasoline. Either way, he's paying higher prices for something...
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No, he didn't say that. He acknowledged that a higher price for gasoline would also mean a higher price for just about everything else. It wasn't raising prices on other things in order to get the price of gas down.
Exactly.


Steve, perhaps you could try, you know, reading my posts instead of telling me what I believe?
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