Or San Francisco........

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"These two entities, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, are not facing any kind of financial crisis,"

"The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies,

the less we will see in terms of affordable housing." - Rep. Barney Frank (D)

As far as I know, George Soros also worked closely with W Administration to help him in his Democracy export into several East European states...

He is everybody's man.

Obama has a strong voice. It's a powerful voice. He will absolutely slay Helium Duck in a contest for the Presidency. As for his policies, I'm only interested in what he'll do to rectify America's blunders in the Middle East . That's still pretty much an unknown, whereas Clinton and Helium Duck are already on the record as self-professed psychotic warmongers. So he's the best of the three, just by way of keeping schtum.

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668.....the neighbour of the beast.

Yanqui, go home.

Brit Hume Loves The Clintons!

Gee how Fox News loves the Clintons these days...but I wonder why.

Hillary's high negatives would make her a push-over defeat for McCain, yes.

But didn't NAFTA passed by the Clintons cause the economic mess we are in?

But Newt Gingrich and Brit Hume going on TV saying she has more experience and is the better candidate?

Didn't Limbaugh and Gingrich spent whole of the 90's trying to destory the Clintons?

Looks like the 1996 telecom bill allowing one company to own a million outlets paid off for Bill and Hillary...

CNN is a Hillary 24-hour infomercial.

Did CNN/FOX make a mint off that telecom bill that or what?

You gotta love these rightwing folks. For 8 years, all the GOP has done is employ Rovian image manufacturing tactics to get their doeboy elected (because image was all he had) and get him friends in Congress, and for 6 of those 8 years, it worked.

And now they're pissed when those same tactics are used against them? Now they claim that loudspoken words like "change" and "hope" count for nothing, when a dude with a 10 on image and a -1000 on substance blew thru two Presidential elections :

Since when has substance ever mattered in the outcome of a general election?

Image is the one and only relevant factor in an American gubernatorial election. That being said, it's true that Obama has some major negatives when it comes to presenting a popular image (i. e. Rev. Wright, non-Christian surname, skin color, etc.)

However, in the end, that won't matter, because, given the prolonged anti-war sentiment in the country, the decisive factor in the 2008 election will be who comes across as the most anti-war candidate, because too many Americans are sick to death of their sons/wives/husbands being deployed overseas while their families wait patiently at home.

And Obama is the one who has succesfully manufactured that image, while McCain has done the opposite.

In the primary election, it was sensible for Obama to focus on the specifics of some of his proposals, but at this stage in the game, it would be politically pointless for Obama to waste time with these specifics. Right now, it's an image battle all the way to the finish line.

And Obama's gonna bring our boys home while McCain will keep 'em burnt up in the desert (for 100 years )

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Life only becomes meaningful at its extremes

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Re: Why We Should Vote for Barack...?

To irritate Clinton supporter Daily Kos!

Conspiracy Planet - Phony "Progressives" - Daily Kos: CIA Engineered Controlled Opposition?

Haha...you wish. You're talking to a guy who, suffering from Cable News Exhaustion™, took his family to a movie and then to eat at a raghead diner on 9/13/2001 because I felt bad that they had no customers. Best. Waitress. Service. Ever.

I happen to find it amusing that the Left has a problem with it.

If he were running right now, I would absolutely have no problem supporting - and saying the name of - Rick Hussein Santorum.

I mean, I really find it amusing - the Left, that is. Oh, the tap-dance they do! Right in line with how B. Hussein Obama is only allowed to be noticed as being black when it is convenient for his supporters. Kinda like O.J.

And, to be clear, the Left absolutely uses "W" in regard to GWB as a pejorative. That is why they spell it "Dubya" - it's that whole contempt for middle-America/South thing they got (which is the same thing that will result in a GOP POTUS this cycle). Problem for the Left is that we have no problem with them repeatedly showing ignorance of and disdain for "fly-over country". It is to our advantage.

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"Compassionate Conservatism"?!?! That is a stupid phrase. Conservatism is inherently compassionate. It is liberalism that is cruel for the sake of maintaining a constituency.

Are racial slurs allowed on this board now? I thought there was a pretty clear policy on these issues. Nice to see you again by the way
Were you one of the many Republicans in PA who were dead wrong about Rick Santorum's candidacy last time around? You claim an ability to judge the political mood of the country, but you were dead wrong about that losing horse, no?
Yes when humorists and shock jocks talk about "dubya" they are making fun of George Bush's general ignorance and yes that translates into a contempt for those who are ignorant. What's so silly about the right's arguments about "liberal condescension" and "elitism" is that they forget that there are ignorant people of every income, color, region and geography. If you feel like middle America is being unfairly targetted then it's a case of Lady Macbeth protesting a bit too much (is the Shakespeare reference an insult to "middle America" as well?). I make no claims as to where ignorance can be located, it can pop up anywhere. But, nonetheless, George-I sacrifice by not playing golf-Bush IS ignorant. Anyone who continues to support him is not only out of line with the American people, but woefully ignorant of the nation's political climate. Since you live in close proximity to middle eastern/south asian restaurants one can assess you are not in an isolated rural area and yet....

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Yesterday, John McCain actually said that if he’s president he’ll take on, and I quote, 'the old boys’ network in Washington.' I’m not making this up. This is somebody been in Congress for 26 years, who put seven of the most powerful Washington lobbyists in charge of his campaign. And now he tells us that he’s the one who’s gonna take on the old boys' network,” he said. “In the McCain campaign that’s called a staff meeting!- Obama, 9/17/2008

Hmmm...I don't know. Let's see if we can find some camel jockeys to ask...maybe some dotheads or porch monkeys...

My state is a political clusterfuck and always has been. Just a nudge on the table and it breaks either way. He spanked an incumbent Democrat appointee when even I didn't think it possible. He lost, in large part, due to Eddie Rendell's influence. Rendell is a somewhat benign Democrat and some of that rubbed off on other state candidates.

Go find me a professional political prognosticator who reliably forecasts Pennsylvania. Compute pi to the final digit, while you're at it.

You haven't heard the last of Rick. He'll get bored with his massive family soon enough. Karen would be a kick ass first lady, btw.

Keep making my argument for me.

GWB got better grades and standardized test scores than Kerry. That is fact. He doesn't speak in some goofball fucked up aristocratic New England manner, though. He is very well read - more so than probably 90% of the country, but doesn't feel compelled to throw it in your face as some NYC weenie at a cocktail party might. He's the first MBA POTUS and the first to be able to deliver bi-lingual addresses (um, not phonetically, as in Mr. "I am a jelly donut"). By every account anybody that ever gotten close to him - especially people who were succeptible to the leftist portrayal of him and were hence surprised - has extolled his humor, personality, thoughtfulness, and mental acumen. But what do they know, right? It's so much easier to go with the flow and say, "Heeeeeeeeeez from TEX-ASS, YOU'ALLLLL! YAHOOOO!" ...and Reagan was a "dumb cowboy" (...that won the Cold War and saved the economy...).

I guess you all would figure Will Rogers to be a dumbass, based upon his manner of speaking, too... Meh. Your loss.

I personally hope you keep it up. Seriously, the Dems "Southern [debacle of a] Strategy" will ensure, at the very, very least, that various socialist/leftist initiatives never see the light of day.

..."and yet", since you obviously want to play, even if I lived in the Southern Region of Rosanne Barr's Buttcrack with only old Mad Magazines to read, I would still run circles around you in any given mental exercise.

P.S. It was a standard "diner", just happened to be owned and operated by sand splibs.

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"Compassionate Conservatism"?!?! That is a stupid phrase. Conservatism is inherently compassionate. It is liberalism that is cruel for the sake of maintaining a constituency.

Well that explains the no child left behind nonsense, too bad we all know standardized tests aren't the best way to assess intelligence. I'm not familiar with either Kerry or Bush's academic records, I am familiar with the way Bush has repeatedly demonstrated his ignorance about the state of the world, the effects of military intervention, education policy, economic policy etc. etc. These things are fair game when ridiculing him as "Dubya."No he just adopts an ever thickening fake southern accent when he wasn't raised anywhere near Texas. I moved to Dallas Tx at age 13, long before Bush did and I never developed the twang that guy has. But the right enjoys false condescension over honesty so your claim he speaks "plainly" and "naturally" would make sense. Talking about books makes you a "weenie"? And also, how exactly do you know how well read he is. Are you guys on a listserv together where he puts out his summer reading list. And like I said, however well read he might be nothing about his policy suggests he reads anything but memos from Dick Cheney and Karl Rove.
Evidence? There also seems to be a large number of people who have interacted with him and understand him to live in a emporer sans clothes bubble where he is only told good news. Witness his complete shock that gas prices were as high as they were last year. Have you not noticed the last two special house elections? Or is your hate of media bias so strong you just pretend as if things don't happen. Childers = the Democratic southern strategy for 2008, you should be worried. If you think I said ways of speaking = a barometer for intelligence you're a bit delusional.

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Yesterday, John McCain actually said that if he’s president he’ll take on, and I quote, 'the old boys’ network in Washington.' I’m not making this up. This is somebody been in Congress for 26 years, who put seven of the most powerful Washington lobbyists in charge of his campaign. And now he tells us that he’s the one who’s gonna take on the old boys' network,” he said. “In the McCain campaign that’s called a staff meeting!- Obama, 9/17/2008

Blah, blah, blah...if he got an 800 on the SAT, it'd be used as a bludgeon upon his head, so mentioning it when the case is opposite is quite fair and reasonable. You disappoint me.

NCLB was utter shit in its name, alone. Uh, here's a clue for you and the rest of the world: There will be children left behind. There are some true dumbasses out there that will never, ever succeed academically regardless of what you do or how much money you spend.

The aspect of the program that sets standards for schools is definitely a step in the right direction. How do I know this for certain? It pisses off the dickbag teachers' unions. It is as simple as this: "What is measured gets attended to...what is attended to gets done." Metrics scare the shit out of unions, in general...for teachers the complacent, overpaid, tenured waste-of-space members of their "brotherhood" are exposed and expected to be dealt with accordingly. Bad schools are called, um, "bad schools" instead of "schools achieving a diminished standard" or some other euphemistic bullshit.

And those are 100% opinions on your part. I think he has taken the 100% perfect attitude towards the "rest of the world". Seeing as I am guessing that you see nothing wrong with the SCOTUS using foreign court decisions as precedent for SCOTUS decisions...we ain't never going to have converging opinions here.

You just so happened to pick most of the relatively short list of things of which I happen to think GWB has been an outstanding leader. Go you!

What tripe.

I spent a whole 18 months in Charleston, SC (as an adult) and got abuse from my Philly-area friends about my altered speech when I returned. Some people adapt (consciously or otherwise) quickly - some never do. Neither is necessarily indicator of intelligence.

Um, no, but bragging about having read them does. It's all part of that whole pseudo-intellectual mystique.

If have read interviews and excerpts of biographies that just happened to mention it. He doesn't read "trash", either, from what I can tell.

Out of time. Lacrosse practice. I'll smell you later.

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"Compassionate Conservatism"?!?! That is a stupid phrase. Conservatism is inherently compassionate. It is liberalism that is cruel for the sake of maintaining a constituency.

Re: Why We Should Vote for Barack...?

Because Brit Hume Loves the Clintons!!

He said 'She is the more experienced candidate!!!'

Oh, but Fox News and CNN only highlight Obama flaws and not Hillary's.

So not only is the usual horse race coverage being jammed down our throats, but relentless bias.

George Stephanopoulis on Nightline last nite continued the Obama bashing he started with the ABC debate.

So that's ABC, CNN, FOX, all blatantly favoring one candidate the Clinton ticket.

The establishment news outlets are overtly showing their favor towards establishment policies, let the viewer be damned!

Elitism at its finest from the top down, from the richest media elites serving jingoistic gruel to the masses.

Disgusting!

Fox News injecting itself into the Democratic Primary process should make all Americans leery of the Clintons motives!

Hello - Fox News and CNN who is also promoting Hillary 24-7, also pushed the Iraq war propaganda down our throats!

Gee how Fox News loves the Clintons these days...but I wonder why.

Hillary's high negatives would make her a push-over defeat for McCain, yes.

But didn't NAFTA passed by the Clintons cause the economic mess we are in?

But Newt Gingrich and Brit Hume going on TV saying she has more experience and is the better candidate?

Didn't Limbaugh and Gingrich spent whole of the 90's trying to destroy the Clintons?

Looks like the 1996 telecom bill allowing one company to own a million outlets paid off for Bill and Hillary...

CNN is a Hillary 24-hour infomercial.

Did CNN/FOX make a mint off that telecom bill that or what?

Post a link that proves this.

Soros has made it his mission in life to boot Bush out of office.

He said if it costs him is entire fortune he would not stop until it happens.


Why?

Because Bush along with Putin put a stop to the money laundering that was going on in Russia when he took office. Putin almost put Soros in prison for the crimes he committed against the people of Russia. Soros took it very badly because he made millions off of the US Dollars the Clinton Administration sent in foreign aid to Russia in the 90s.

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"These two entities, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, are not facing any kind of financial crisis,"

"The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies,

the less we will see in terms of affordable housing." - Rep. Barney Frank (D)

HOLY CHRIST! Yet another Obama thread saying pretty much the same thing as the other? Unbelievable. Shouldn't these things all be merged or something?

There can never be too much ice cream or Obama.

Apparently.

That moolie is a mess. Why? Because he's fallen victim to what I've seen first hand too many times.

A black man starts to get ahead. He starts to become "accepted" by "white people". Black-On types clamor. He begins to doubt himself. He is stuck...roll with it or entertain the Roots, pun intended.

Call it Dave Chappelle Syndrome. He saw the white cameraman laughing at one of his skits and got the jitters.

I initially did not have a problem with B. Hussein Obama, personally, other than the fact that his politics suck. But as a family man, a man of [lefty] conviction, somebody who fought hard for what he had, I gave him credit.

Gone. Gone, Daddy, Gone.

No guts.

I don't think Obama is "Black-On", but he painted himself into that corner by not repudiating that hardcore nonsense.

Not much different that Steven "Big Daddy" Hill in the Navy. Huge corn-fed negro from the "Souff" who managed to get enough out of his secondary education to land himself in the nuclear (compelled to say "NUKE-U-LAR") engineer program in the Navy (not easy to do). He did well, but got stressed, and punched out his instructor. Gone. Lands in my division (unskilled "Deck Apes") and never could reconcile being smart and full of potential with the other "brothers". He slid to appease. Broke my heart, because he was a good friend. Not much I could do about it. Some people are slaves (again, pun intended) to peer pressure.

Obama cannot have it both ways. We'll have a black POTUS when they actually rely upon the content of their character above the color of their skin.

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"Compassionate Conservatism"?!?! That is a stupid phrase. Conservatism is inherently compassionate. It is liberalism that is cruel for the sake of maintaining a constituency.