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Re: Once again Obama talking out of his ass.

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Put another way, don't jump to conclusions...or...look before leaping (there's alliteration in the latter so it's an easy mnemonic).
Which wasn't the issue on my part based on the evidence presented by Lost Soul...

LS...We found some dead Iranians with military ID but in civilian clothing
AP...That happens all time even in America
LS...In America the soldiers aren't trying to kill you.
AP...How do you know the Iranians were trying to kill you?
LS...Because the Iranian was trying to kill us while we were on patrol(eyeroll)
AP...You should be more clear
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I don't appreciate the smartalec snark that comes after the fact. Had there not been any vagueness in the first place the question wouldn't have been asked.
Actually, he wasn't vague. Had the proper question been asked, I'm sure the proper answer would've been given...
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You should have stated that you were ambushed, killed the ambushers, and found a dead man with an Iranian badge. It's like you're intentionally being vague so that you can solidify your arguements later. Kinda makes me wonder if you're makin' up shit as you go.
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I have also had my squad search enemy dead and I have seen first hand Iranian Military ID's who were wearing civilian clothing.
Reading not your strong suit?

Now why would we be walking around in Iraq searching the dead bodies of Iranians if we hadnt just aced them?

And I will put out the same charge to you also, anytime you would like to debate combat squad tactics and general Army knowledge I will be more than happy to school you.
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What Obama should do is talk to Iran now and ask Ahmadinejad to endorse McCain.
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What Obama should do is talk to Iran now and ask Ahmadinejad to endorse McCain.
McCain does not have a family background related to Islam like Obama does...fat chance.
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Reading not your strong suit?

Now why would we be walking around in Iraq searching the dead bodies of Iranians if we hadnt just aced them?
I would have known they died how? Psychic intuition? And dead bodies being discovered in Iraq isn't exactly strange. Are you saying that the mass graves being discovered in Iraq are the result of the U.S. military?
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McCain does not have a family background related to Islam like Obama does...fat chance.
All the better. Ahmadinejad will be more likely to help out one of his bros
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I would have known they died how? Psychic intuition? And dead bodies being discovered in Iraq isn't exactly strange. Are you saying that the mass graves being discovered in Iraq are the result of the U.S. military?
Are you trying to be stupid?

I Thought everyone here knew I did 26 months in Iraq. I believe everyone also knows I was with the 82nd Airborne and was a Ranger.

The Airborne and Ranger motto is " Kill them all and let God sort them out" and "Death from Above".

Seeing that I was in a combat unit and I had my squad search dead bodies, one would come to understand they were men we just KIA'ed. I didn't think I needed to go into the gory details of how we did our job.
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All the better. Ahmadinejad will be more likely to help out one of his bros
I thought Obama wasn't a Muslim? Are you now saying he is?

BTW, Obama is mixed white/black where Ahmadinejad is an Aryan, so they are not "bros" unless you count both having ties to terrorism.
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Are you trying to be stupid?

I Thought everyone here knew I did 26 months in Iraq. I believe everyone also knows I was with the 82nd Airborne and was a Ranger.

The Airborne and Ranger motto is " Kill them all and let God sort them out" and "Death from Above".

Seeing that I was in a combat unit and I had my squad search dead bodies, one would come to understand they were men we just KIA'ed. I didn't think I needed to go into the gory details of how we did our job.
Were these people killed because of the 82nd Airborne Rangers? I hope not but LS seems to be implying that whenever dead bodies turn up in Iraq, the U.S. military is to blame.

All you had to do was so that your unit killed the man in question because he was shooting at you.

And I agree with Obama's stance on the issue.
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Were these people killed because of the 82nd Airborne Rangers? I hope not but LS seems to be implying that whenever dead bodies turn up in Iraq, the U.S. military is to blame.

All you had to do was so that your unit killed the man in question because he was shooting at you.

And I agree with Obama's stance on the issue.
So now mass graves brother you?

How about when Saddam was filling them?

But you are against the Iraq war.

Which is it? You are all for mass graves when a brutal dictator is doing the killing but have a problem now that mass graves are being filled by sectarian violence?
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So now mass graves brother you?

How about when Saddam was filling them?

But you are against the Iraq war.

Which is it? You are all for mass graves when a brutal dictator is doing the killing but have a problem now that mass graves are being filled by sectarian violence?
How is your post about Obama's belief that we should talk to people we don't like?

ETA:I'll go ahead and address your questions though.

Mass graves don't bother me too much as long as the American gov isn't involved directly or indirectly. Saddam was able to fill mass graves in part thanks to the arms we supplied to him.

I am against the Iraq War.

Since I've never been against mass graves in the first place I think I won't address your final point.
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How is your post about Obama's belief that we should talk to people we don't like?

ETA:I'll go ahead and address your questions though.

Mass graves don't bother me too much as long as the American gov isn't involved directly or indirectly. Saddam was able to fill mass graves in part thanks to the arms we supplied to him.

I am against the Iraq War.

Since I've never been against mass graves in the first place I think I won't address your final point.
Really, because you accused US soldiers of being involved so you must be against them.

As for the weapons be supplied Saddam, do you know what weapon is commonly found 99.9% of the time in Iraq? The AK 47 which is either made in Russia or China. So there goes your point of the US being involved with Saddam filling mass graves. Straw man anyways because we gave Saddam help during the Iran Iraq war which was fought in the early 80's. After almost 30 years I believe the weapons we supplied are no longer in service nor have been for years.

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For all practical purposes, the US government has no choice but to talk to Iran, because Iran pretty much calls the shots in the country the US stupidly invaded, i. e. if the US doesn't play nice w/Iran, Iran will exert its Iraqi influence to start killing US troops there again, wrecking the rep of whoever is President of the US.

(That being said, Iran has near complete control over the US Presidential election. If Iran wants McCain to lose, all it has to do is let off the security in Iraq, and voila, . . . so it appears that the Iranian leadership, known for its strategic thinking, thinks either McCain or his Dem opponent would be just as bad for it, and consequently, any election engineering would be a waste of time)

Politically, of course, saying one will "talk to Iran" sounds bad because to Americans Iranians are one of the baddies (i. e. Axis-of-Evil).

However, in the end, it doesn't matter. McCain will lose the election, because the decisive idea he's running on is that the "surge worked." So once anyone publicly points out the discrepancy between this statement and the reality (i. e. post-surge troop casualties/injuries), the old frigate will go down w/all hands.
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