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Once again Obama talking out of his ass.
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Does this dude have a clue? Didn't Obama just say last week he wouldn't talk to Hamas because they were a terrorist group? Yet Iran isn't a terrorist country? As for his history, sounds like he is just a clueless as most libs who re-write history at will. I believe Harry Turman talked to Japan on the deck of the USS Missouri when they signed a full surrender of war defeated. |
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BTW. Unless I am wrong, Truman was not on the USS Missouri. Gen. MacArthur accepted the surrender |
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As O'sullivan pointed out your source is wrong. I'm also pointing out that your wrong in your analysis. A Terrorist group does not equal a legitimate nation state recognized by the world. How can you make these types of correlations? BTW when was there a terrorist attack attributed to Iran? Maybe I missed it. |
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Maybe because you have never been to Iraq and seen first hand the demo and devices made in Iran in the form a IED that has killed thousands of troops and cillivans. Or ever had to walk a patrol to come under fire and after the firefight find military docs and ID's on the KIA from Iran. So its OK with you that Iran has a hand in killing our troops and Obama wants to talk to them instead threatening them to either get the hell out of Iraq or face bombardment of Tehran. |
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Wrong...they were not our enemies until they declared war. I believe Hitler wanted us as a Ally or for us to stay out of the war. He did not want to go to war with us until we started helping Britain. Japan had PM in Washington and we were in the process of signing non-aggression pact right up until Pearl Harbor. You dont sign this agreement with a nation you consider your enemy. Japan and USA had good relationship for years before WW2. Unlike Iran. Last edited by Lost Soul; 05-12-2008 at 06:36 PM. |
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One setback by the US not having diplomatic relations with Iran is the loss of trade that other nations pick up, most of all oil. 56% of Iran’s oil exports head to Asia (Japan and China getting 1/3 of Iran's oil overall) and 29% to Europe. The U.S. gets cut out.
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I have also talked with Iraqis who have said they had seen and talked to Iranian soldiers. |
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It's fairly clear to me that Obama is just playing damage control and expelling the guy because the public found out about what he was doing, not because of it.
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The US relations with Japan steadily deteriorated with Imperial Japan long before Pearl Harbor. It got really bad following the Rape of Nanking and the invasion of Indochina, which led to the US cutting off its ability to get oil that Japan needed for its war machine, leading to the war. Hitler wanted to keep the US out of the war, at least until Europe was secured. Long term he pondered it, as he disliked the US as a capitalistic society of Jews and mongrels in his eyes. FDR supported the British in things like the Lend-Lease Act, leasing ports, giving anti-submarine information to the Allies, etc. That aggravated Hitler, but he still wished to bide his time with the US. What got Hitler into the war was his stupid Foreign Minister, Joachim von Ribbentrop, who made a reckless boasting comment to the Japanese ambassador to Germany where he promised that if Japan attacked the US that Germany would likewise declare war. He made the promise without obtaining a reciprocal promise that Japan would declare war on the Soviet Union. Japan then negotiated a neutrality pact with the Soviets to free its hand to attack the US, which in turn it did and called upon Germany to live up to its promise. The German charge d'affairs in Washington, Hans Thomsen, wired Germany following Pearl Harbor stating that much sentiment existed to fight only Japan to avoid a two front war, but Hitler rejected that counselling, feeling that the US had antagonised Germany long enough and that the time was right to put the US down by also declaring war on it. Hitler was wrong, though, as the two front war actually hurt him more than it did the US given the situation on the battlefields and Germany's location vis-a-vis the US geographically. In both cases the Japanese and the Germans declared war on the US, not the other way around.
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I think the far right can't understand why Obama isn't trying to be more like Bush, after all, you couldn't fit a razor blade between McCain and Bush's positions, and the right believes that most of the country is behind Bush, so they think if Obama is to have a chance, he has to parrot every stupid Bush position, like McCain does............
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I think that OSB beat me to it.
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