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Democrats Show Unbelievable Hypocrisy With Rising Gas Prices

Congressional Democrats are showing a great deal of audacity with their questioning of Oil Executives.

The very crisis they are accusing Big-Oil of causing...they themselves caused with their votes.

Red-tape has stopped us from building new refining capacity for over 30 years, their refusal to allow domestic drilling, the slow collapse of the dollar is all the fault of the Majority in the US Congress.

The only drilling going on in this country is the Democrats drilling oil executives.

How can they talk this way when they know they caused all of this?

Answer: Because they can.

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A Senate Judiciary Committee seeks answers from Big Oil execs for rising oil prices on day that crude crossed $130 a barrel.

"You have to sense what you're doing to us - we're on the precipice here, about to fall into recession," said Sen. Richard Durbin, D-Ill. "Does it trouble any one of you - the costs you're imposing on families, on small businesses, on truckers?"

The executives said it did, and that they are doing all they can to bring new oil supplies to market, but that the fundamental reasons for the surge in oil prices are largely out of their control.

"We cannot change the world market," said Robert Malone, chairman and president of BP America Inc. "Today's high prices are linked to the failure both here and abroad to increase supplies, renewables and conservation."

Malone's remarks were echoed by John Hofmeister, president of Shell.

"The fundamental laws of supply and demand are at work," said Hofmeister. The market is squeezed by exporting nations managing demand for their own interest and other nations subsidizing prices to encourage economic growth, he said.

"The place to start the free market is in our own country," said one executive. [The drilling ban] sets the stage for OPEC to do what we are doing in our own country, and that is effectively limiting supplies."

John Lowe, executive vice president of ConocoPhillips, said Congress should enact a balanced energy policy. In addition to lifting the drilling ban, such a policy could include measures to encourage alternative energy sources, remove the ethanol tariff, promote energy conservation, cut regulations around refining.

"We must work together to find a real solution," said Lowe. "U.S. oil companies should be viewed not as scapegoats, but as assets."

Oil executives go before Congress - May. 21, 2008
The Dems want the oil companies to work with what they have left them.

How can anyone do anything in a country were they handcuff your industry yet expect you to do miracles.
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Re: Democrats Show Unbelievable Hypocrisy With Rising Gas Prices

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Congressional Democrats are showing a great deal of audacity with their questioning of Oil Executives.

The very crisis they are accusing Big-Oil of causing...they themselves caused with their votes.

Red-tape has stopped us from building new refining capacity for over 30 years, their refusal to allow domestic drilling, the slow collapse of the dollar is all the fault of the Majority in the US Congress.

The only drilling going on in this country is the Democrats drilling oil executives.

How can they talk this way when they know they caused all of this?

Answer: Because they can.



The Dems want the oil companies to work with what they have left them.

How can anyone do anything in a country were they handcuff your industry yet expect you to do miracles.
Yessiree, it's all those damn Dems fault we're getting ripped off at the pump! Couldn't possibly be the people who are getting obscenely rich or the two oilmen in the White House behind it...

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Re: Democrats Show Unbelievable Hypocrisy With Rising Gas Prices

I don't trust the oil execs as far as I can thrown them. They have all the compassion of Burmeese Generals. I watched the entire Senate hearing yesterday. They do have a small point however that if resources could be tapped in the USA the prices might come down. I would prefer to save the environment and invest that money in moving away from a petroleum based economy in North America.
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How much of the ANWR oil would be sold to the Chinese? Perhaps it could help offset our trade deficit?
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We can refine all day long, the price of oil is globally traded, we have little to know control over it, even if we pumped barrel after barrel out of Alaska. Again no one on the refining or ANWR side of the aisle can articulate how we get oil out of the ground without foreign investment and why that foreign investment would allow us to sell their investment at a lower price to our consumers when the global marketplace would lead to a greater return on the investment. Moreover, can anyone argue that drilling in Alaska would take less time than investing money into expanding public transportation and building railway infrastructure around the country? You want to put people with industrial skills to work, we need to outfit every major city with public transportation, people need to have a viable option for getting to work and around their cities. We have so much sprawl which means we also have room and space to build rail/bus systems that are effective. We are behind the rest of the western world on this and now we are paying for it. You can whine about refineries all day, we need something DIFFERENT, we need to use our American ingenuity and rethink our entire relationship to oil. It's possible if you're not going to be lazy.
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Yessiree, it's all those damn Dems fault we're getting ripped off at the pump! Couldn't possibly be the people who are getting obscenely rich or the two oilmen in the White House behind it...

Bush's net income has dropped since he became President.

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Congressional Democrats are showing a great deal of audacity with their questioning of Oil Executives.

The very crisis they are accusing Big-Oil of causing...they themselves caused with their votes.

Red-tape has stopped us from building new refining capacity for over 30 years, their refusal to allow domestic drilling, the slow collapse of the dollar is all the fault of the Majority in the US Congress.

The only drilling going on in this country is the Democrats drilling oil executives.

How can they talk this way when they know they caused all of this?

Answer: Because they can.



The Dems want the oil companies to work with what they have left them.

How can anyone do anything in a country were they handcuff your industry yet expect you to do miracles.
The oil companies are quietly enjoying being the middleman during our energy crisis.

They aren't inherently evil, but they're also not going to pass up the opportunity to skim a bit more than usual off the top.

Expecting miracles is exacly what you're doing Mudwhistle if you think that ANWAR is the answer.

How much do you think gas prices would go down if we started drilling in ANWAR and all other prohibited areas today?

At best it's only a small relief..... it's not a solution. Personally, I'm in favor of drilling for oil everywhere that we can, but I'm under no illusion that doing that will significantly stem the tide of rising world, or even domestic, demand.
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Re: Democrats Show Unbelievable Hypocrisy With Rising Gas Prices

This Congress is doing a lot worse than I expected.
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Re: Democrats Show Unbelievable Hypocrisy With Rising Gas Prices

Public policy has dictated against drilling in ANWR far before this Congress has been in power. It's absurd to suggest that the Democratic controlled House (remember, the Senate is 49-49-2) is responsible for anti-drilling policies when a Republican-controlled Congress didn't allow it for the twelve years they had control.

Drilling in Alaska may eventually be the solution...but we're not there yet.
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Re: Democrats Show Unbelievable Hypocrisy With Rising Gas Prices

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Congressional Democrats are showing a great deal of audacity with their questioning of Oil Executives.

The very crisis they are accusing Big-Oil of causing...they themselves caused with their votes.

Red-tape has stopped us from building new refining capacity for over 30 years, their refusal to allow domestic drilling, the slow collapse of the dollar is all the fault of the Majority in the US Congress.

The only drilling going on in this country is the Democrats drilling oil executives.

How can they talk this way when they know they caused all of this?

Answer: Because they can.

The Dems want the oil companies to work with what they have left them.

How can anyone do anything in a country were they handcuff your industry yet expect you to do miracles.
What utter BS, and you are showing your lack of knowledge on the topic by posting such a post. The 5 largest oil companies have made a collective net profit in the first quarter of 2008 of 36 billion dollars. The oil companies are arguing that the only way to reduce the prices is to open up new drilling areas (ie they're targetting Alaska). All this will do is to further increase their profits, at the expense of the environment, and will have little-to-no effect on the motorist.

The price of oil is being driven by a number of factors, particularly the status of the US economy and the weak US dollar; and the almost overnight and dramatic increase in demand from China, India and other rapidly developing countries.
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Re: Democrats Show Unbelievable Hypocrisy With Rising Gas Prices

when we stop thinking "2 party" it starts to make more sense...

could the oil cartels have influance in american politics?...nooooooo
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What utter BS, and you are showing your lack of knowledge on the topic by posting such a post. The 5 largest oil companies have made a collective net profit in the first quarter of 2008 of 36 billion dollars. The oil companies are arguing that the only way to reduce the prices is to open up new drilling areas (ie they're targetting Alaska). All this will do is to further increase their profits, at the expense of the environment, and will have little-to-no effect on the motorist.

The price of oil is being driven by a number of factors, particularly the status of the US economy and the weak US dollar; and the almost overnight and dramatic increase in demand from China, India and other rapidly developing countries.
Talk about BS, do you know that there is more oil in Alaska and off shore of America than the whole ME.

You libs whine about the environment but I bet you drive a car. So when you stop driving in the name of the environment then you will have a leg to stand on, until then, your nothing but mouth.
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Talk about BS, do you know that there is more oil in Alaska and off shore of America than the whole ME.

You libs whine about the environment but I bet you drive a car. So when you stop driving in the name of the environment then you will have a leg to stand on, until then, your nothing but mouth.
Sure, go ahead and drill there then ... you don't seem to get that it won't actually decrease the price of oil do you?
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Sure, go ahead and drill there then ... you don't seem to get that it won't actually decrease the price of oil do you?
If we could export some yes it will. You dont see people in the ME paying 4 bucks gallon now do you.


When you giving up your car seeing how much you care about the environment?

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When you giving up your car seeing how much you care about the environment?

Actions are louder than words.
I don't have a car. I catch public transport. Touche!
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