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Re: Obama: My uncle liberated … Auschwitz?

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Turns out it was Buchenwald, not Auschwitz. And it was his grand uncle.

It's barely even a slip-up.
It is a huge slip up since Buchenwald was essentially a labour camp while Auschwitz was the primary "extermination" camp that saw the highest number of casualties.
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Re: Obama: My uncle liberated … Auschwitz?

The 83rd Infantry Division, which his great-uncle was a part of, overran Langenstein (which had a sub-camp) on the same day the 6th Armored Division liberated Buchenwald. By that point the Germans had already pulled out of the area and Communist inmates at Buchenwald had taken control of the camp.
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It is a huge slip up since Buchenwald was essentially a labour camp while Auschwitz was the primary "extermination" camp that saw the highest number of casualties.
Good point Frank. Still, even Auschwitz had its fair share of industry.
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Re: Obama: My uncle liberated … Auschwitz?

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well, I have been leaving it be, but after his flip flop on speaking to Ahmadinejad and Castro, and this, I smell some Goreite material here.....invented internet, look for th union label, Hills being named after Sir Edmund, I cannot for the life of me, understand this, in today’s world to boot.

According to Obama it was his grandfather who marched with Patton, not his uncle, and they liberated Ohrdruf Concentration Camp, (his unit did) and it was his grand uncle..and it was a work camp not a death camp......

Anyon who has a handy knowledge of ww2 knows that auschwitz is in Poland, and the red army liberated that camp.


Obama also spoke about his uncle, who was part of the American brigade that helped to liberate Auschwitz. He said the family legend is that, upon returning from war, his uncle spent six months in an attic. “Now obviously, something had really affected him deeply, but at that time there just weren’t the kinds of facilities to help somebody work through that kind of pain,” Obama said. “That’s why this idea of making sure that every single veteran, when they are discharged, are screened for post-traumatic stress disorder and given the mental health services that they need – that’s why it’s so important.”

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Im willing to accept that this is a stupid mistake instead of an intentional embellishment. It is nice to see that politicians need to start thinking before they speak, knowing that everything they say is going to be checked. Imagine all the things polticians had to have gotten away with in the past before youtube and the internet. Im more concerned with Obama saying the housing crisis was caused by Bushs economic policies.
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Im willing to accept that this is a stupid mistake instead of an intentional embellishment.
Yeah, same here. I think this will all blow over pretty quickly.
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Re: Obama: My uncle liberated … Auschwitz?

well, I have been watching the local news affiliates, no word. Why is that important? Because a McCain slip in Israel made the front pages and segments of the local news here.........just calling it as I see it......
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Re: Obama: My uncle liberated … Auschwitz?

Well at least he didn't say he was dodging mortar fire and runninfg for safety while in a foriegn country....
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Re: Obama: My uncle liberated … Auschwitz?

I love how Obama got a pass from the media last year when he claimed 10,000 people were killed in a twister (KA) when it was only 12.

Seems Obama cannot get his numbers right. And he wants to be President of all 57 states.
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Well at least he didn't say he was dodging mortar fire and runninfg for safety while in a foriegn country....
yea well, I also have issues with every member of the armed forces being classified as a "hero” too, but I am going to leave it alone, as I don’t think we'd have much of a logical or emotion free discussion here on that topic.
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yea well, I also have issues with every member of the armed forces being classified as a "hero” too, but I am going to leave it alone, as I don’t think we'd have much of a logical or emotion free discussion here on that topic.
I'm a hero in the war on drugs and I would appreciate it if people would refer to me as such.
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I'm a hero in the war on drugs and I would appreciate it if people would refer to me as such.
Up until 1984 I was part of the axis of evil...
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Re: Obama: My uncle liberated … Auschwitz?

Looks like this election is shaping up to be another personality contest... oh well.... not surprised.

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Looks like this election is shaping up to be another personality contest... oh well.... not surprised.

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its has always been so...ala kennedy and nixon, clinton and dole etc...
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Re: Obama: My uncle liberated … Auschwitz?

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well heres the thing- Auschwitz/Ohrdruf, uncle vs. grandfather ( actually its great uncle) those words are even phonetically alike. I find it difficult to accept he was confused. I think he was trying the old Political game, was embellishing freely, that’s my gut reaction.

Was his point laudable? Sure, but where these guys go wrong is, they attempt to be empathetic absent any real grounds from which to do so, if so, he would not have needed to embellish. They cannot just make the point, they have to feel your pain, and I despise that self gratuitous hamhanded silly speak.

I don’t have a big hash with this, it’s a gaffe, my point and only point whenever I comment in these or create posts like thi, is to point out he is no better than any of the rest. He’s not jesus come down from the mount and he’s not perfect.
I think you've hit the nail on the head. He is not different. He is not unique. He is just another lying politician. He has made that clear so many times now that it is becoming more and more difficult for his 'apostles' to continue to live in total denial. Plenty of everyday people (for you Obama lovers that is the Bitter, angry voters that are clinging to god and guns) simply aren't buying Obama's message of CHOPE anymore. The backlash is starting to grow......
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its has always been so...ala kennedy and nixon, clinton and dole etc...
Not always. There was a time decades ago when the 'image' was irrelevant, and the 'issue' was important. But unfortunately its all about peoples personality now. Both sides are engaged in this, of course. The sad thing is that Obama was able to rally a lot of young people for the primaries, if this personality contest continues all the way too November most of those young people will become quickly disillusioned with the process and apathy will quickly take over.

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