well, I have been leaving it be, but after his flip flop on speaking to Ahmadinejad and Castro, and this, I smell some Goreite material here.....invented internet, look for th union label, Hills being named after Sir Edmund, I cannot for the life of me, understand this, in today’s world to boot.

According to Obama it was his grandfather who marched with Patton, not his uncle, and they liberated Ohrdruf Concentration Camp, (his unit did) and it was his grand uncle..and it was a work camp not a death camp......

Anyon who has a handy knowledge of ww2 knows that auschwitz is in Poland, and the red army liberated that camp.


Obama also spoke about his uncle, who was part of the American brigade that helped to liberate Auschwitz. He said the family legend is that, upon returning from war, his uncle spent six months in an attic. “Now obviously, something had really affected him deeply, but at that time there just weren’t the kinds of facilities to help somebody work through that kind of pain,” Obama said. “That’s why this idea of making sure that every single veteran, when they are discharged, are screened for post-traumatic stress disorder and given the mental health services that they need – that’s why it’s so important.”

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Sounds like a mixup. Obama should be held accountable for getting the story wrong. If you're going to do one of those personal story stump speeches citing a person (or relative), then you had better get the story right. He may be guilty of exaggerating... but who knows... maybe grampa was exaggerating when he was putting an adolescent Barack to bed with old war stories.

Obama really shouldn't be messing around with military cred. considering his opponent.

On the other hand, his uncle, grand uncle.... whatever did serve in WWII apparently and there's no reason to doubt that he holed up after coming home from the war. The point he was trying to make is hard to throw out.

Certainly this is hard to disparage...I mean if McCain had messed up (I know it would never happen... steel trap, baby) some of the details of one of his grandfather's war stories, we'd have to cut him some slack... wouldn't we? Certainly people would point it out... but it wouldn't have much traction politically. This seems like a pretty minor story.

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im suprised bush doesnt kick his cousins ass for bragging about liberating auschwitz

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by the way.....


this survivours look pretty healthy.

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typhoid

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Both candiadtes are going to make mistakes. But, puffing one's self up for cred with false "hero" stories stinks.

Yeah, BO should steer away from any puffing up in the military sense, especially considering McCain. That's a hard act to follow on that level.

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Cheney is Obama's 6th (or something) cousin, not Bush.

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I wouldn't call Obama's (great) uncle a false hero...

Obama's inaccurate oration was at least based on a true story.

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well heres the thing- Auschwitz/Ohrdruf, uncle vs. grandfather ( actually its great uncle) those words are even phonetically alike. I find it difficult to accept he was confused. I think he was trying the old Political game, was embellishing freely, that’s my gut reaction.

Was his point laudable? Sure, but where these guys go wrong is, they attempt to be empathetic absent any real grounds from which to do so, if so, he would not have needed to embellish. They cannot just make the point, they have to feel your pain, and I despise that self gratuitous hamhanded silly speak.

I don’t have a big hash with this, it’s a gaffe, my point and only point whenever I comment in these or create posts like thi, is to point out he is no better than any of the rest. He’s not jesus come down from the mount and he’s not perfect.

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True. Sorry, long day.

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I totally agree.

Our job seems to be to parse all the candidates words and call them on it when they are exaggerating, posturing, lying, etc. and weigh them accordingly.

They all do it. I have a feeling that if any of the presidential candidates did not "play politics" well, they are no longer in the race.

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agreed.

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Turns out it was Buchenwald, not Auschwitz. And it was his grand uncle.

Obama mistaken on name of Nazi death camp

It's barely even a slip-up.

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Seems to me as though Obama felt the need to willingly play with the facts a little.

Ask the average American what Buchenwald was, and you're likely to get a blank stare. As the average American what Auschwitz was, and I suspect far more would know that one.

Had Obama said "Buchenwald", people would go "Huh?". If he says "Auschwitz", people will go "Ooooooohhh" and "Aaaaaahhhhh". He was going for the drama factor, plain and simple.

Did he lie about it? Yeah, I think he did. Auschwitz and Buchenwald aren't easy to confuse, and I don't believe an educated man like Obama would confuse them...

I think the term is great as opposed to grand and I heard it was Ohrdruf, a networked sub camp that supplied workers. It was liberated a week before Buchenwald.

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In fact all of the alleged "death camps" were located in Poland and the United States military did not make it past Berlin as I recall; Auschwitz itself was "liberated" by the 322nd Rifle Division of the Soviet 60th Red Army.

Either Obama's relative was a member of the Soviet Red Army or Obama has yet to master his lying skills.