If your argument is that the UN is flawed; I totally agree with you! However, the UN Security Council never authorised the "no-fly zones." You can attack me all you wish but again the fact is the "no fly zones" were not authorised by any UN Security Council Resolution hence the U.S. could not have been enforcing a resolution that never existed!

Your accusation of my engaging in hypocrisy is baseless and quite fallacious. I think your problem is with the United Nations inability to enforce resolutions and not with me; they make the rules and I just report on them.

Good post.

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And what UN Security Council Resolution authorised the "no fly zones" again? Ignoring the sheer emotionalism lets stick to the facts of the issue; the "no fly zones" were an infringement on Iraqi sovereignty; an infringement unauthorised by the UN Security Council. The Iraqi's had every right to defend their air space from unauthorised invaders regardless of how mean Saddam was in either reality or propaganda...

No attacks - only pointing out an agenda of convenience on your part. How many times have we seen the same quote of UN sanctions w.r.t. Israel posted by you (and a tallying of the dead) when any conversation about Palestinian violence is mentioned? From my recollection (it even happened again, today), it's quite frequent. The UN has done zip to enforce those resolutions. So, at least we see eye-to-eye on that.

However, you think you can justify Palestinian violence against Israel because Israel is doing something the UN says is illegal. Yet, when the coalition does that with the no-fly zones (better than lobbing a quassam indiscriminantly into non-military targets), you condemn it.

Thanks for the opportunity to expose your double-standard.

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Based on an accusation with no basis in fact...

And if any UN Security Council Resolution authorised the "no fly zones;" I would not have referred to them as illegal or unauthorised and I would have conceded that Iraq was in violation of international law by shooting at the patrol planes but no such resolution exists...

The Resolutions against Israel were concrete, spelled out and irrefutable in meaning while UNSC Resolution 688 says nothing about the authorisation of "no fly zones."

I offer the numbers of dead from both sides including links to "B'Tselems" statistics page; it is not my fault that the Palestinians have died at a 6:1 ratio in comparison to the Israeli's.

The UN has done nothing concrete to end the Israeli occupation of Palestine either; please keep this in mind....

I justify the right of all people living under military occupation to resist their occupiers; this basic right to self-determination is enshrined in international law.

There is no resolution authorising the "no-fly zones" while I have cited Palestinian militants for their violations of international law and referred to such actions as legally "wrong"...

Israeli Human Rights Violations in the O.P.T 22 - 28 May

You have done a great job in proving that you have no idea of what you are talking about...

Yes.....and as long as they were a threat to their neighbors and their own people it is up to decent people to stop them.

After all their land isn't their's. God didn't give it to them, they took it from somebody else. Who really owns land anyway. A thousand years ago Iraq didn't exist. In a million years there will be no Iraq and no United States. Every country there is today is only temporary anyway.

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I do not muddy my view up with religious nonsense or philosophical bunk; I look strictly to the law when drawing my conclusions on world conflicts. When one measures the situation by the law and nothing but law the situation becomes easy to figure out...

Laws are no good if you can't enforce them.

Sovereignty is only as good as your ability to enforce it.


When a ruler becomes a threat to peace in a region he had better be able to enforce his own sovereignty or else he runs the risk of a foreign power dictating terms to him. Saddam can't blame anyone but himself for his predicament.

I bet you believe in the Historical Palistine argument as well.

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Of course I do as it happens to be a historical fact; remember I do not allow philosophical bunk to influence historical or legal facts...

Who lived there first the Hebrews or the Palistinians?


We are talking about 3000 years ago now.

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3,000 years ago is completely irrelevant; lets talk about which group constituted the majority population in Palestine just prior to the formation of Israel. The majority of those Palestine residents were Arabs and a Jewish State was established on their land; land which was predominantly owned by Arabs...

Are they able to enforce that sovereignty or do you think they need to ether live with the Jews or go find somewhere else to live?

They've been displaced just like the Jews were once displaced before them.

Who really has the right to that land?

I'll tell you......whomever fought for it last and won.

That's how countries are formed.

Welcome to how the world has worked for thousands of years and always will work until the end of man's time on this Earth.

Sorry if you don't like it......

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The Arabs had the right to most of the land as they owned most of the land prior to the existence of Israel...

UN Map of Palestine Land Ownership: 1945

Your bullcrap strawman is showing. If I had ever said there was a resolution for the no-fly zone, you would have a point. What I did say and for those not paying attention, the ENFORCEMENT of the UN resolutions (which the UN does not do) is where you choose convenience for your transparent agenda. I choose to reveal your agenda at every opportunity.

Yes, of course and according to you, it is just dandy that the Palestinians try to ENFORCE a UN resoultion because they kill da joos when they do. God, forbid the US (and others) do the same to ENFORCE a UN resolution. And, according to you, the "evil US" is influenced by da joos, so that's just more convenient for you to trash the US and her troops. More of your agenda is showing.

Da joos are thriving in spite of the anti-Jews here and in the world. If feeble egos can't handle that, too bad. You'll have to use smarter strawmen to make your agenda any less transparent.

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While I don't agree with this sentiment as a principle, in relation to Israel, I completely agree. If there was ever a debate about whether or not the Israelis deserve that land, their constant defense of the land should, at the very least, provide justification for their occupation of that land.

That is not to say, however, that it wouldn't be extremely beneficial to the entire region for Israel to be instrumental in the establishment of a Palestinean state.

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