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Re: Obama Resigns Trinity Church
Not to be a stickler, but I think it was Toni Morrison. What, you think all black people look the same? J/K
Clinton as the First Black President
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About Obama being black:
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Re: Obama Resigns Trinity Church
The reason that black people support the Democratic Party in such high percentages is because black people are disproportionately lower-income and disadvantaged, and the Democrats have set themselves up as the party of the working class against the rich. (Not altogether true, except compared to the GOP.) Even those black people who are not lower-income either have been in the past, or emerge from African-American communities including a lot of people who are. Also, the history (past and present) of slavery, segregation, and official and unofficial discrimination gives black people in this country a natural inclination to take the part of the economic underdog.
Given all that, for a black person to be a Republican almost always requires that he be, not only financially successful, but also willing and inclined to sever himself emotionally from the African-American community and from the history of black people in this country. Since only a relatively small minority of African-Americans fit that description, the lopsided support is not very surprising, or shouldn't be. |
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Since you don't seem even the least bit satisfied with his both denouncing Rev. Wright and resigning from the church, I think it's probably suffice to say you won't be satisfied until he burns that church to the ground and pisses on the ashes. Even if he denounced every word that has ever been spoken in that church, I have absolutely no doubt that you wouldn't give him any credit for doing so and would simply state that he is only doing it for political purposes. I'm curious, though I really could not care less about whether or not you think Obama's motivations are admirable, what exactly could Obama do to get you to forgive him for belonging to, what you refer to as, a "racialist" church? If the answer is nothing, then the issue, as I see it, is dead.
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2) He could renounce the doctrines of the church; throwing Rev. Wright under the bus is hardly convincing since he maintained membership in his racialist church after he did so... He finally quit in the name of not wanting to be held to blame for the words of others not because he no longer supported church doctrine. |
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BHO is bad because he didn't throw Wright under the bus. BHO is bad because he did throw Wright unde the bus. BHO is bad because he quit that church. BHO is bad, period, according to you. Why could that possibly be, Frank?
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Re: Obama Resigns Trinity Church
I'm glad Obama left his church. Now we just need everyone else to leave their churches. Can't wait for a secular President, because these faith-based ones aren't doing anyone any good. However, wouldn't it be much better if Rev.Wright were going to the White House every day instead of James Dobson? Or Pat Robertson?
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uh, no.
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Re: Obama Resigns Trinity Church
Since there is nothing wrong with being "racialist" -- use of that word being a deceptive ploy on your part because the word resembles, but is not, "racist," and it WOULD be bad if the church were "racist" instead of just "racialist," but it's not -- why should he?
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Re: Obama Resigns Trinity Church
Why not? What's wrong with Rev.Wright? It's not like he was saying anything different from MLK. He said things about America that are unflattering but true, and that makes him a wingnut? Don't get me wrong, I can't really stand religion, but there's nothing really that bad about Rev.Wright. He's far more sane than the right-wing fascist preachers.
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1) "Racialist" and "racist" are two different words with two different meanings; just because I use the proper term in its proper context does not indicate deception but an honest presentation of the facts. 2) Right and wrong are a matter of perspective. I have no problem with black racialists working in the interests of their people but I will not rejoice in one ruling over a white majority population for obvious reasons though ultimately people deserve the government they elect... |
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