Obama disregards international law to suckpoop Israel. - U.S. Politics Online: A Political Discussion Forum

Frank · #1 (**permalink**) 06-04-2008

Apparently Barack Obama knows nothing of international law or does not give a damn about said law when it comes to Israel...

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Obama addresses rumors at pro-Israel conference

Obama addresses rumors at pro-Israel conference - CNN.com

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Sen. Barack Obama vowed Wednesday that Jerusalem must "remain the capital of Israel, and it must remain undivided."

"Any agreement with the Palestinian people must preserve Israel's identity as a Jewish state, with secure, recognized and defensible borders," the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee said at the annual conference of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, an influential pro-Israel lobbying group.

"Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel, and it must remain undivided," Obama said.

The Palestinians also want Jerusalem to be the capital of their own country. United States policy has long been intentionally vague on the status of Jerusalem. The U.S. Embassy in Israel is in Tel Aviv, not Jerusalem.

Ummmm Mr. Obama...

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United Nations Security Council Resolution 478

The Security Council,

Recalling its resolution 476 (1980),

Reaffirming again that the acquisition of territory by force is inadmissible,

Deeply concerned over the enactment of a "basic law" in the Israeli Knesset proclaiming a change in the character and status of the Holy City of Jerusalem, with its implications for peace and security,

Noting that Israel has not complied with resolution 476 (1980),

Reaffirming its determination to examine practical ways and means, in accordance with the relevant provisions of the Charter of the United Nations, to secure the full implementation of its resolution 476 (1980), in the event of non-compliance by Israel,

1. Censures in the strongest terms the enactment by Israel of the "basic law" on Jerusalem and the refusal to comply with relevant Security Council resolutions;

2. Affirms that the enactment of the "basic law" by Israel constitutes a violation of international law and does not affect the continued application of the Geneva Convention relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War, of 12 August 1949, in the Palestinian and other Arab territories occupied since June 1967, including Jerusalem;

3. Determines that all legislative and administrative measures and actions taken by Israel, the occupying Power, which have altered or purport to alter the character and status of the Holy City of Jerusalem, and in particular the recent "basic law" on Jerusalem, are null and void and must be rescinded forthwith;

4. Affirms also that this action constitutes a serious obstruction to achieving a comprehensive, just and lasting peace in the Middle East;

5. Decides not to recognize the "basic law" and such other actions by Israel that, as a result of this law, seek to alter the character and status of Jerusalem and calls upon:

(a) All Member States to accept this decision;

(b) Those States that have established diplomatic missions at Jerusalem to withdraw such missions from the Holy City;

6. Requests the Secretary-General to report to the Security Council on the implementation of the present resolution before 15 November 1980;

7. Decides to remain seized of this serious situation.

Adopted at the 2245th meeting by 14 votes to none, with 1 abstention (United States of America).

Why would Obama make such an irresponsible statement when it is clear that East Jerusalem is occupied and the UN Security Council has made it clear that Israeli unification of the territory is illegal under international law!?

Imperator · #2 (**permalink**) 06-04-2008

because hes in the pocket of aipac?

Frank · #3 (**permalink**) 06-04-2008

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Originally Posted by Imperator

because hes in the pocket of aipac?

Since Obama is willing to disregard international law to appease the Israeli lobby what else is one to believe?

If you want TRUE change America....vote for Ralph Nader!

MattLarson · #4 (**permalink**) 06-04-2008

Oh noes!!! Obama has been outwitted by Da Joo!!!!!!

Frank · #5 (**permalink**) 06-04-2008

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Originally Posted by MattLarson

Oh noes!!! Obama has been outwitted by Da Joo!!!!!!

No, he merely knows which rear ends to kiss; the fact that he is willing to disregard the will of the UN Security Council to appease AIPAC illustrates that he is anything but an actual force for change.

Jason Marcel · #6 (**permalink**) 06-04-2008

If Obama really stands for change, he'd promise to pull all the aid that American taxpayers send to the Middle East altogether. Israel, Palestine, Pakistan, everyone. America needs to be a strong third-party for that part of the world, but it's been inbred in most Americans that we can do whatever we want, whenever we want, and then act Shocked! Shocked! when we get bit.

Steve · #7 (**permalink**) 06-04-2008

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Originally Posted by Jason Marcel

If Obama really stands for change, he'd promise to pull all the aid that American taxpayers send to the Middle East altogether. Israel, Palestine, Pakistan, everyone.

If he did that, I could be swayed to be a fan.

But I've got ten bucks says he doesn't do it and, as you suggest, will then show that he doesn't really stand for change, and that his whole platform of "change" was nothing but bullshit to get votes...

RFK1968 · #8 (**permalink**) 06-04-2008

So if Obama doesn't change everything then he doesn't actually stand for any kind of change?

Frank · #9 (**permalink**) 06-04-2008

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Originally Posted by RFK1968

So if Obama doesn't change everything then he doesn't actually stand for any kind of change?

He is openly advocating the Israeli annexation or unification of Palestinian East Jerusalem with Jerusalem to incorporate the city as Israel's capital; an act that would be illegal under international law.

Jason Marcel · #10 (**permalink**) 06-04-2008

What is Obama going to change, anyway? Bush was the real agent of change, what with circumventing the constitution, invalidating haebeus corpus, his disastrous pre-emptive war doctrine, two simultaneous wars coupled with huge tax cuts. Bush promised to do nothing and changed everything. Obama says he stands for change, but hopefully he'll just restore some measure of order. They all talk out of the sides of their mouths to get votes, this should not be a surprise to anyone. Obama's just naive. Anyone who wants power says they'll be different, more accountable, more open, but then they get in and start spinning everything, and hiding, and fudging facts.

Who was the last honest American President? Jimmy Carter maybe? He told everyone to put a sweater on. Classic. After him, Americans didn't really want to hear the truth anymore. They didn't want someone to diagnose the way things were, they wanted someone who could blow sunshine up their asses all day long. Hence, Reagan, and it's been the same ever since.

RFK1968 · #11 (**permalink**) 06-04-2008

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Originally Posted by Frank

He is openly advocating the Israeli annexation or unification of Palestinian East Jerusalem with Jerusalem to incorporate the city as Israel's capital; an act that would be illegal under international law.

Would you consider violating international law a change or not?

Frank · #12 (**permalink**) 06-04-2008

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Originally Posted by Jason Marcel

What is Obama going to change, anyway? Bush was the real agent of change, what with circumventing the constitution, invalidating haebeus corpus, his disastrous pre-emptive war doctrine, two simultaneous wars coupled with huge tax cuts. Bush promised to do nothing and changed everything. Obama says he stands for change, but hopefully he'll just restore some measure of order. They all talk out of the sides of their mouths to get votes, this should not be a surprise to anyone. Obama's just naive. Anyone who wants power says they'll be different, more accountable, more open, but then they get in and start spinning everything, and hiding, and fudging facts.

Obama wants to hand East Jerusalem over to Israel; something that flies in the face of international law.

He talks about being the great uniter? Yeah now we get an inkling of how he wants to unite people and places!