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Old 06-05-2008
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Obama the Chickenhawk.

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Obama says goal 'to eliminate' Iran threat

Jun 4 11:15 AM US/Eastern


Democratic presumptive presidential nominee Barack Obama vowed Wednesday he would work to "eliminate" the threat posed by Iran to security in the Middle East and around the globe.
"There's no greater threat to Israel or to the peace and stability of the region than Iran," he told the powerful pro-Israel lobby, the American Israel Public Affairs Council (AIPAC).

"The danger from Iran is grave and real and my goal will be to eliminate this threat," he said, adding loudly to add emphasis that he would "everything" to prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon.

"The Iranian regime supports violent extremes. And challenges across the region. It pursues a nuclear capability that could spark a dangerous arms race," he told AIPAC's annual meeting in Washington.

Calling for "aggressive, principled diplomacy" to tackle the problem of the Islamic regime in Tehran, he also warned he would never take the military option off the table in guaranteeing US and Israeli security.

"As president of the United States, I would be willing to lead tough and principled diplomacy with the appropriate Iranian leader at a time and place of my choosing -- if, and only if -- it can advance the interests of the United States."
Obama says goal 'to eliminate' Iran threat

Just weeks ago he was claiming he would sit down and talk to Iran but now its Mr. Toughguy.

You Obamabots have been fooled into believing Obama was Christ reborn and now your finding out he is a blowhard chickenhawk.

Obama going to start WW3!
Obama going to make the terrorist in Iran hate us!
We are going to steal Iran oil!
No war for OIL!
Iran doesnt have any WMD!
Iran poses no threat to America why is Obama worrying about a country that means us no harm?
None of the 9/11 hijackers were from Iran.
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Old 06-05-2008
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Re: Obama the Chickenhawk.

"tough and principled diplomacy" --- damn, that is right out of Jimmy Carter's mouth.
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Old 06-05-2008
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Re: Obama the Chickenhawk.

Troll alert.
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Old 06-05-2008
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Re: Obama the Chickenhawk.

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"tough and principled diplomacy" --- damn, that is right out of Jimmy Carter's mouth.
Yeah. And we know that never worked, right?

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Furthermore, the original poster may want to look up the definition of eliminate before making assumptions regarding Obama's intentions.

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Eliminate

Verb

* S: (v) extinguish, eliminate, get rid of, do away with (terminate, end, or take out) "Let's eliminate the course on Akkadian hieroglyphics"; "Socialism extinguished these archaic customs"; "eliminate my debts"
* S: (v) obviate, rid of, eliminate (do away with)
* S: (v) eliminate, annihilate, extinguish, eradicate, wipe out, decimate, carry off (kill in large numbers) "the plague wiped out an entire population"
* S: (v) rule out, eliminate, winnow out, reject (dismiss from consideration or a contest) "John was ruled out as a possible suspect because he had a strong alibi"; "This possibility can be eliminated from our consideration"
* S: (v) excrete, egest, eliminate, pass (eliminate from the body) "Pass a kidney stone"
* S: (v) eliminate (remove from a contest or race) "The cyclist has eliminated all the competitors in the race"
* S: (v) eliminate (remove (an unknown variable) from two or more equations)
It's a pretty broad term. Essentially, all it means is to remove.
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Re: Obama the Chickenhawk.

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"tough and principled diplomacy" --- damn, that is right out of Jimmy Carter's mouth.
Well it does seem that it should at least be tried first. Nixon did talk to China and Reagan talked to Russia so it isn't that uncommon to try diplomacy rather than just go straight to the bombs.
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Old 06-05-2008
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Well it does seem that it should at least be tried first. Nixon did talk to China and Reagan talked to Russia so it isn't that uncommon to try diplomacy rather than just go straight to the bombs.
Hmmm ... The parties are always talking. Even when they say they're not.
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Re: Obama the Chickenhawk.

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Hmmm ... The parties are always talking. Even when they say they're not.
I'm inclined to agree with that assessment. I think the whole "we refuse to talk to them" is just a bit of pandering to score points with the bellicose crowd rather than indicative of either intelligent or realistic policy.
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Re: Obama the Chickenhawk.

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I'm inclined to agree with that assessment. I think the whole "we refuse to talk to them" is just a bit of pandering to score points with the bellicose crowd rather than indicative of either intelligent or realistic policy.
I agree; it’s almost as annoying as the “you don’t try diplomacy” complaints.
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I agree; it’s almost as annoying as the “you don’t try diplomacy” complaints.
Certainly. I guess that's the natural other side of it.
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Re: Obama the Chickenhawk.

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Yeah. And we know that never worked, right?

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Furthermore, the original poster may want to look up the definition of eliminate before making assumptions regarding Obama's intentions.



It's a pretty broad term. Essentially, all it means is to remove.
Nice spin.......

Maybe you should you should think about this, two weeks ago Obama was saying Iran posed no threat to the US and had no problem sitting down to talk but now he is talking tough to appease the Jewish voting block?

So you can say that Obama is no different than Bush when it comes to siding with Israel before any other ME country.......the same reason you libs claim every Arab terrorist producing country hates us now.

So when Obama claims change it means no change at all but more of the same as usual.
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Re: Obama the Chickenhawk.

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"tough and principled diplomacy" --- damn, that is right out of Jimmy Carter's mouth.
thats the UN Iam, please.....
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Re: Obama the Chickenhawk.

Obama should be running for President in Israel. He seems to have its interests in mind more than those of America.
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Re: Obama the Chickenhawk.

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Yeah. And we know that never worked, right?

Camp David Accords

Furthermore, the original poster may want to look up the definition of eliminate before making assumptions regarding Obama's intentions.



It's a pretty broad term. Essentially, all it means is to remove.
please the David accords are well, wasn't exactly catching lightning in the bottle.....sadat had already had folks talking to Israel (without carter even knowing it after becoming frustrated with the Americans) and we had little to do with his visit to Israel. I give carter credit for following through, but Egypt’s performance in 73 made this all possible.
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Re: Obama the Chickenhawk.

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Obama should be running for President in Israel. He seems to have its interests in mind more than those of America.
But notice how common this seems to be amongst prominent U.S. politicians? What does it say about America and the Israeli lobby when a politician has to support Israel to succeed in gaining power?
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Re: Obama the Chickenhawk.

It's inevitable that Iran will eventually get nukes. It might take them 20 years, but Iran will eventually have it. Why? Because as long as US troops are stuck in Iraq--which is pretty much forever--Iran is in the driver seat, since Iraq is now Shiite territory and if so if the US !@#$s w/Iran, then. . .
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