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Old 06-05-2008
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Barack Obama - This is guy is not fit to run a lemonade stand..

From Obama's speech to AIPAC:

Obama’s speech: The text, the audio, the video | JTA Election Central

My response to Barack Obama...

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"The question is how to move forward. There are those who would continue and intensify this failed status quo, ignoring eight years of accumulated evidence that our foreign policy is dangerously flawed.
Strange comment since you want to maintain a middle east policy that invokes Arab/Muslim hatred toward America namely supporting Israel.

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And then there are those who would lay all of the problems of the Middle East at the doorstep of Israel and its supporters, as if the Israeli-Palestinian conflict is the root of all trouble in the region.
Israel is certainly the root cause of the current problems in historical Palestine and you apparently want to continue your support of a Jewish state that has created an Apartheid colonial regime in the Occupied Territories.

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These voices blame the Middle East's only democracy for the region's extremism.
I thought Iraq was a democracy Barack? Did they not have an election? How about Lebanon; they have elections...

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Are these two nations not run by elected representatives? Or are you so ignorant that you do not even know these basic facts?

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They offer the false promise that abandoning a stalwart ally is somehow the path to strength. It is not, it never has been, and it never will be.
How is Israel an ally Obama? Do you know that Israel has committed acts of state terror against your very nation; ever hear of the Lavon Affair nimrod? How about the U.S.S. Liberty you ignorant dipstick?

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Our alliance is based on shared interests and shared values.
So America supports the values of Jewish supremacy, Apartheid, colonialism and hostile occupation? Good job in putting your foot in your mouth Obama!

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Israel has always faced these threats on the front lines. And I will bring to the White House an unshakeable commitment to Israel's security.
I thought the American presidents job was to make a commitment to the security of America not to a foreign state?

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That starts with ensuring Israel's qualitative military advantage. I will ensure that Israel can defend itself from any threat - from Gaza to Tehran.
You want to arm Israel so they can continue committing war crimes in Palestine namely Gaza. This is your great human rights activist and honourable man huh democrats?

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Defense cooperation between the United States and Israel is a model of success, and must be deepened. As President, I will implement a Memorandum of Understanding that provides $30 billion in assistance to Israel over the next decade
So you are going to hand over billions in U.S. tax dollars to fund Israel' war criminal enterprise in Occupied Palestine! This is your force for change America?

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First, we must approve the foreign aid request for 2009. Going forward, we can enhance our cooperation on missile defense. We should export military equipment to our ally Israel under the same guidelines as NATO. And I will always stand up for Israel's right to defend itself in the United Nations and around the world."
Is this your way of saying that any UN Security Council Resolution against Israel war criminal activity will be vetoed? If so; not much of a change in that policy now is there Obama?
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Re: Barack Obama - This is guy is not fit to run a lemonade stand..

Come on frank, a lemon stand? Your bias is showing, he’s perfectly capable of running a fast food joint, I am sure of it.
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Re: Barack Obama - This is guy is not fit to run a lemonade stand..

Obama's speech to AIPAC has placed him firmly at odds with international law. His , likely, Presidency will form the basis for a unity of anti-'American' States, with any luck, and the world will turn a corner.
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Re: Barack Obama - This is guy is not fit to run a lemonade stand..

Or his speech to AIPAC was a political ploy to achieve a desired goal.

Hamas hits out at Obama

Now McCain supporters can't say Hamas endorses Obama.
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Re: Barack Obama - This is guy is not fit to run a lemonade stand..

He also received Hillary's endorsement as "a friend to Israel" before AIPAC: YouTube - Hillary: Obama Will Be A Good Friend To Israel

Things are lining up well for him.
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Re: Barack Obama - This is guy is not fit to run a lemonade stand..

He's a traitor, I hope those Obama supporters realize what a scam artist he is - violently robbing Americans of $30 billion to pay a country whose interests oppose those of America.

He's defending Zionism and Israel in a way not even Bush dared to.

He's already stated he's not withdrawing troops.

Now, he's appeasing the military industrial complex.

I fear for my country.
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Re: Barack Obama - This is guy is not fit to run a lemonade stand..

I think the best thing that has happened since the AIPAC speech is that Obama's supporters and Obama's pro-Israel opponents can come together against the anti-Israel crowd.

Now, dammit Mudwhistle, I want you to hold my hand!!
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Obama's speech to AIPAC has placed him firmly at odds with international law. His , likely, Presidency will form the basis for a unity of anti-'American' States, with any luck, and the world will turn a corner.
In your opinion, the majority of American citizens are firmly at odds with international law.

In my opinion, the majority of palestinians support terrorism and have elected terrorists to represent them as leaders.

Isn't it only fair that we are allowed to elect a representative leader?
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Re: Barack Obama - This is guy is not fit to run a lemonade stand..

You say Obama is not fit to be president, honestly do you think McCain is? or even Bush? Obama is the only one out of them to have a degree from Harvard and well versed and thinks. Iam not at all close to being a racist but I assume you are white by the title of this post. Obama probably could not run a lemonade stand becasue he is too busy trying to save America from falling by the waist side, too busy trying to fix what Bush messed up, too busy trying to help instead of hurt, too busy working his butt off to get through to a very racist people, trying his hardest to get people to look past skin color and look at morals, change, issues and (much needed) results. He is too busy fighting for a change, a necessary change, a much needed change, an important change. So I ask you sir, when you think of the candidates for President and you look at their background, history, personallity traits, language, speech targets, etc., who then do you see more fit. If your answer is still not Obama then perhaps you are onr of thoes many racists who don't want to see a black-man in office. I am not calling you a racist persay but I just want you to really think about your statements!
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Re: Barack Obama - This is guy is not fit to run a lemonade stand..

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You say Obama is not fit to be president, honestly do you think McCain is? or even Bush? Obama is the only one out of them to have a degree from Harvard and well versed and thinks. Iam not at all close to being a racist but I assume you are white by the title of this post. Obama probably could not run a lemonade stand becasue he is too busy trying to save America from falling by the waist side, too busy trying to fix what Bush messed up, too busy trying to help instead of hurt, too busy working his butt off to get through to a very racist people, trying his hardest to get people to look past skin color and look at morals, change, issues and (much needed) results. He is too busy fighting for a change, a necessary change, a much needed change, an important change. So I ask you sir, when you think of the candidates for President and you look at their background, history, personallity traits, language, speech targets, etc., who then do you see more fit. If your answer is still not Obama then perhaps you are onr of thoes many racists who don't want to see a black-man in office. I am not calling you a racist persay but I just want you to really think about your statements!

Really? Too busy? Funny while in the senate Obama done next to nothing and when he has its been to the very far left. Now everyone knows anyone that votes to the left of Ted Kennedy isn't trying to fix anything but whats best for themselves.

Looking at Obama background is a cluster fuck also. He has racists, terrorists and socialists as family and friends.

Obama is the worst person out of the three and I dont think highly of the other two.
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Re: Barack Obama - This is guy is not fit to run a lemonade stand..

I guess Obama is losing his bearings.

If you think Bush talks like an idiot watch these videos of Obama:

YouTube - Obama Gaffe

YouTube - Obama gaffe

YouTube - Barack Hussein Obama Exposed: Lies, Gaffes & Backtracks
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Re: Barack Obama - This is guy is not fit to run a lemonade stand..

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You say Obama is not fit to be president, honestly do you think McCain is? or even Bush? Obama is the only one out of them to have a degree from Harvard and well versed and thinks....
GWB has an MBA from Harvard; a fact apparently lost on you. However, GWB is not running for office this term. That would be BHO and McCain (and other candidates from smaller parties).

Whenever the BHO supporters insist on speaking of GWB, who is not a candidate, they bore me. Whenever they speak of GWB without basic knowledge of facts, I am bored to tears.

If BHO supporters speak of campaign issues, they have my ear.
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I guess Obama is losing his bearings.

If you think Bush talks like an idiot watch these videos of Obama:

YouTube - Obama Gaffe

YouTube - Obama gaffe

YouTube - Barack Hussein Obama Exposed: Lies, Gaffes & Backtracks
Those first two are hilarious. I couldn't understand a word that was said in the third one because the video's creator apparently has a strange fascination with playing loud music to drown out Obama's words, which is actually completely antithetical to the creator's purpose.
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Re: Barack Obama - This is guy is not fit to run a lemonade stand..

The speech was a politically brilliant move and every last word was calculated to give the US the upper hand when real diplomacy starts.
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You say Obama is not fit to be president, honestly do you think McCain is? or even Bush?
Of the three, my first choice would be to have another choice. Beyond that, I'd go Bush.

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Obama probably could not run a lemonade stand becasue he is too busy trying to save America from falling by the waist side, too busy trying to fix what Bush messed up, too busy trying to help instead of hurt, too busy working his butt off to get through to a very racist people, trying his hardest to get people to look past skin color and look at morals, change, issues and (much needed) results.
It's good that you've memorized the basic feel-good Obama party line, but you obviously don't know who you're talking about. He is a Chicago Democrat. In Chicago, you don't rise to any office above PTO member unless you 'play the game'. He may not be up to Hillary's level of villany, but he's still at his core a politician, in it for himself first, his various cronies second, and America third. He's undeniably the best looking candidate we've had in a while, and probably one of the better and more emotionally appealling speakers, but it's all a show to get you to hand him the keys to the America car so he can go out carousing and leave the tank empty, or worse still, have it stripped for parts and leave it for you up on blocks. He's busy working his butt off to get you to believe the fairy tale that you've apparently swallowed hook, line, and sinker.

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He is too busy fighting for a change, a necessary change, a much needed change, an important change.
Yes, a change from an America being fed lies from a white 'good-ole-boy' persona to an America being fed lies from a black 'brotha-from-the-hood' persona. Don't know about 'much needed' or 'necessary', but certainly a change, and arguably an important one.

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So I ask you sir, when you think of the candidates for President and you look at their background, history, personallity traits, language, speech targets, etc., who then do you see more fit.
The best one I know of so far is Bob Barr, tho with so many people voting based on packaging and/or team spirit rather than actual analysis of the issues, he doesn't stand a chance.

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If your answer is still not Obama then perhaps you are onr of thoes many racists who don't want to see a black-man in office.
Or perhaps I'm not a sheep, and instead look at the qualifications of the candidates and their positions. I'd have no problem with an openly homosexual black (fill in the blank with a couple other comparable attributes) if I thought they'd actually work for the American people instead of just for their political handlers and supporters.

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I am not calling you a racist persay but I just want you to really think about your statements!
And I wish you'd take some time to think about yours. It's too late in the cycle now, but I've said on more than one occassion that if you like what Barak says, you'd love what Ron Paul would actually do. If you're Really about much-needed change, try looking at substance rather than packaging.

(And that doesn't mean McCain - He's probably more of a self-serving change artist than Obama is. Look at the Libertarians, or if you don't value a decent standard of living, the Greens, or perhaps some other party I'm not familiar with that isn't mostly led by corrupt liars.)
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