When it sells, you bet.

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good luck with that...if you can refute non partisan polls, self identification the msms news rooms etc. and the like have at it.

What I think many forget is, to an extent there is no bias when yi comes down to tearing down candidates that have pissed off the press or that the press feels they have favored to an extent, and thats too an extent as well.

McCain was the golden boy in 2000, Very favorable press. I’d say he has been treated well so far overall, he has not had as many favorable articles written for him because the spotlight was and to an extent on Hill and Obama. That’s to be expected. Now that’s it Obama and him we’ll see. Plus like it or not, identity politics is a leftist mantra, shes a woman and they still have a lot of power and feel ill used perhaps due to what they feel was more favorable coverage for Obama vis a vis Hill. If Obama had been a white man, and had beat Hill as Obama had, you’d be hearing this much much louder.

As far as the media making noise regards hills sects staying with her, if that’s defacto evidence of a non left slant, I don’t agree, and I say give it time. The press has had a convoluted affair with the Clintons. I think they ( the media) feel ill used as if she threw them a curve as well, the Bosnia thing Bill making idiotic remarks. I think that the noise they are making now is that last gasp of the love affair so to speak and the fact that, they may feel Hillary has a few bullets left in her gun.

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Oh I get it. The media is liberal because that is what the audience wants? They are liberal because that is what the open market demands? They are liberal because most of the country is liberal?

Then maybe all the wingnuts should stop crying and whining just because their precious corporatist system is doing exactly what they say it should do.

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good point nbc is owned by Immelt or whatever his name is, but thats another myth, if murdoch calls up fox and tells them what to run, then Imelt must be a lefty, I really have no idea and most of the media owners of the rest are whom exactly? Disney, Viacom, Time et al....they are righties? I don't think so, they are mainly medai giants, the Tiems is owen by the Sulzbuger family I beleive, .....no, I'd say that they know what kind of trouble that would spell if the coprs that own the media were to engage in that from either side.

Plus there is a difference between cable and net news etc.

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Yet, the viewing audience has given ratings to the relatively new kid on the block - Fox. Maybe that is indicative of the viewing audience's desire for something other than the bias some have seen for a lifetime. Now these viewers have a choice in the direction of the slant - that's balance for the viewing public and the ratings show it.

Plus, I see just as much "whining" from anti-Fox crowd. Someone not a member of the club is now playing in their sandbox and s/he's turned out to be a popular kid.

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well who knows? Air amercia has burned up cash and cannot make it in the free market radio spectrum...but yet....

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Huge corporations are by definition pro business/anti worker, pro "free trade" (for them) and anti regulation. Obviously they are more likely to support right wing republicans. As for "trouble" if they control the news - what kind of trouble? Who ever heard of a business owner who does not control his own business?

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That would be fine, as long as they drop the veneer of being objective journalists, and admit they're on par with the rest of the other tabloids. The problem is that they're misrepresenting themselves.

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You can't have it both ways.
Either the owners of our media display a left wing slant like you claim because it pays or else they don't. It's ridiculous to claim "liberal" bias is prfitab le because that's what the people want and then in the next post try to claim the people really want fox.

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Sure I can. When the slant has been only one way for a lifetime, what choice does one have. When a new guy comes along and steals the business (stings, huh), it is indicative of an ideological monopoly where viewers sucked it up until an innovator came along and gave them what that segment wants.

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What do you suggest? Should the anchor come on and say "and now for the news GE has decided to let me report"? That makes no sense - and it certainly wouldn't make profits.

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So now you're claiming it's been slanted forever but it's NOT because it pays? Those for-profit corporations just kept slinging liberal trash even though it was NOT what the viewers wanted because - well because - ummm - for no reason at all?

You're all over the map. First you claim they are liberal because that's what the public wants. Then you claim the public really wants conservative bias. Then you claim the for-profit mega-corporations are force feeding people liberally biased programming (even though the people hate it) for no reason at all!

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My map is quite accurate and my compass quite true. I don't know about your perception, though. I do know that often those who complin, complain because they can't stand a change, even if it the change is for the best. In this case, more choice.

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The old class warfare axe grinding away...I cannot argue with a pat midset, so I won't try. But it appears you are wrong in this case.

so, you are saying that, the companies whom own these media outlets have been dictating content/slant/doctrinal outlook?

you also overlooked m point regards media conglomerates and biz conglomerates. NBC and cbs are tired and not making money but they are making money, if Immelt told the board at nc to start going con . how long do you think that would be kept secret? And what price would GE pay in public outcry the gov. getting involved etc. as compared to just riding along. Plus ot simply assume Immelt is a righty is not sound.

Hollywood deals in HUGE cash flows, yet they continue to make moves that don’t do well at the box office ala the string of anti war movies. They make them anyway. Hollywood and its mogul’s are lefty...so?

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So now you're justifying profits thru lies?!?

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