Your premise is ridiculous. TV does not represent the entire media. And even if it did - what about the other 23 hours and 54 minutes of programing per day?

We are discussing the left bias in Main Stream Media sources as a whole -that is Newspapers, Newswire Services, Magazines, TV, Cable TV - all of them. A few Military analyst's tilting to the right on the Nightly News is not enough to make a case that there is now a "right" bias.

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-- Barney Frank, October 20, 2008

Did not vote for the woman, and will not vote for either of the choices as there is no difference between the two..

Change is only going to come when we STOP sending the same party to DC.

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lol

That was a little naive. No one person owns these corporations, they have stockholders. Even FOX can't do whatever they want. The power belongs to the board, the majority stock holders and the CEO.

Not all rich people are Republicans. Is Bill Gates Republican? Is Oprah Republican?

You see, the "filthy" rich play both sides.

According to the record, Bill Gates favors the Democratic party.
* Data Updated on 02/24/2006
Political Campaign Contributions by Bill Gates (1999 to Present) - $59,100 ** Last donation was 10/17/2003
REPUBLICAN:21% DEMOCRAT:45%

Bill Gates Biography - Money,Politics, Biography of Bill Gates, Campaign Contributions

Even Robert Murdoch has given money to over a dozen Democrats for campaigns.

NEWSMEAT ▷ Rupert Murdoch's Federal Campaign Contribution Report

It is easy to see how the media often makes the corporation out to be the bad guy, but does anything ever change?

Sure, occasionally a company will get fined here and there, but the government rarely ever cracks down on corporations.

The media simply tells people what they want to hear, occasionally doing an important story now and then, since there are still some good journalists out there. Almost all media sources do a few important stories a year.

btw, have you ever read the Rolling Stone interview with Bernstein? IT IS QUITE ENLIGHTENING.

In 1953, Joseph Alsop, then one of America’s leading syndicated columnists, went to the Philippines to cover an election. He did not go because he was asked to do so by his syndicate. He did not go because he was asked to do so by the newspapers that printed his column. He went at the request of the CIA.

Alsop is one of more than 400 American journalists who in the past twenty-five years have secretly carried out assignments for the Central Intelligence Agency, according to documents on file at CIA headquarters.

Some of these journalists’ relationships with the Agency were tacit; some were explicit. There was cooperation, accommodation and overlap. Journalists provided a full range of clandestine services -- from simple intelligence gathering to serving as go-betweens with spies in Communist countries. Reporters shared their notebooks with the CIA. Editors shared their staffs. Some of the journalists were Pulitzer Prize winners, distinguished reporters who considered themselves ambassadors-without-portfolio for their country. Most were less exalted: foreign correspondents who found that their association with the Agency helped their work; stringers and freelancers who were as interested it the derring-do of the spy business as in filing articles, and, the smallest category, full-time CIA employees masquerading as journalists abroad. In many instances, CIA documents show, journalists were engaged to perform tasks for the CIA with the consent of the managements America’s leading news organizations.

The history of the CIA’s involvement with the American press continues to be shrouded by an official policy of obfuscation and deception...

Carl Bernstein, CIA and the Media, Rolling Stone Magazine - The Education Forum

I mean this is from a legend at the Washington Post, but the people just dismiss what he says.

So, do you think this is still going on? Do you wonder how a liberal media could have supported the iraq war in the beginning?

Now you know.

Some good reading on the media, if anyone is interested.......


Frank Church showed that it was CIA policy to use clandestine handling of journalists and authors to get information published initially in the foreign media in order to get it disseminated in the United States. Church quotes from one document written by the Chief of the Covert Action Staff on how this process worked (page 193). For example, he writes: “Get books published or distributed abroad without revealing any U.S. influence, by covertly subsidizing foreign publicans or booksellers.” Later in the document he writes: “Get books published for operational reasons, regardless of commercial viability”. Church goes onto report that “over a thousand books were produced, subsidized or sponsored by the CIA before the end of 1967”. All these books eventually found their way into the American market-place. Either in their original form (Church gives the example of the Penkovskiy Papers) or repackaged as articles for American newspapers and magazines.

In another document published in 1961 the Chief of the Agency’s propaganda unit wrote: “The advantage of our direct contact with the author is that we can acquaint him in great detail with our intentions; that we can provide him with whatever material we want him to include and that we can check the manuscript at every stage… (the Agency) must make sure the actual manuscript will correspond with our operational and propagandistic intention.”

Church quotes Thomas H. Karamessines as saying: “If you plant an article in some paper overseas, and it is a hard-hitting article, or a revelation, there is no way of guaranteeing that it is not going to be picked up and published by the Associated Press in this country” (page 198).

By analyzing CIA documents Church was able to identify over 50 U.S. journalists who were employed directly by the Agency. He was aware that there were a lot more who enjoyed a very close relationship with the CIA who were “being paid regularly for their services, to those who receive only occasional gifts and reimbursements from the CIA” (page 195).

Operation Mockingbird

We have a liberal biased media with many CIA assets intertwined.

Do you see?

btw, if you hate FOX news, you have to see this piece I just found....

It might be old news to some people here.

FrontPage Magazine

In September of 2005, Saudi Prince Alwaleed bin Talal purchased 5.46 per cent of Class B voting shares in News Corp, the company that owns Fox News and a number of other media and entertainment entities. This had replaced the three per cent stake in Class A non-voting shares bin Talal had previously held through his investment corporation, Kingdom Holding Company (KHC).

More good stuff at the link....

I just read through the banter between you and tim, and coming from a third party perspective, I've gotta side with tim. You provided an initial statement, which tim interpreted correctly in light of the topic at hand. Then you go ahead and make a contradictory statement, and when tim calls you out on it, you claim that he interpreted it wrong. When asked to elaborate as to what it was you truly meant, you avoid the question and just spit out fancy terms and subtle insults. Repeated attempts at getting you to clarify the intent behind your first statement failed due to your continuous deflecting.

tim was spot on. You stuck your foot in your mouth.

Sorry fellas, but this topic is getting more than a little cliche. Republicans listen Rush Limbaugh and watch Fox News. Democrats listen to Air America and watch CNN. That's not exactly big news (pun intended). Just about every perspective is serviced somewhere...As far as the mainstream media is concerned, If you're a left-leaner than everything seems slanted right. If you're a right-leaner than everything seems slanted left. The CIA occasionally conducts information warfare abroad. There is no such thing as a bias-less news source. Are there any other spellbinding revelations that anyone has to offer? Aren't there more interesting fish for us to fry?

As for the professors, assuming this dubious study concluding their alleged liberal bias is accurate, we should remember that among first world countries, heck, among countries in general, America tends to be far more politically conservative. We have (relatively speaking) a gigantic debt, a tiny social welfare system, and a massive military, not to mention nonexistant taxes on rich individuals and large corporations. Whether this is good or bad is another discussion, however we should keep this in mind when we throw around allegations of who's biased and who's not.

Thanks for your input, too. Now I know who else wants to invent views for me, I'll remember.

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If you are complaining a bout a suppposed left wing bias ijn sitcoms then you need to step away from the television.

The military analyst program was years worth of daily lies offering the straight pentagon line under the guise of "independent military analysis" and is only the latest example of the right wing bias in television news - where most people these days get their information. It is therefore a little more relevant to the discussion than who is singing what on american idol.

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If you are going to cite rupert murdoch and the CIA as an examples of media controllers with no right wing bias then you obviously have no intention of discussing this issue seriously.

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Edward Gibbon

Huge corporations are by definition pro business/anti worker, pro "free trade" (for them) and anti regulation. Obviously they are more likely to support right wing republicans.

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Edward Gibbon

If a 'humiliating spanking' consists of one or two incidents blown out of all proportion and then used to falsely depict the whole then yeah, good job.

Fox gets ratings because they show breasts and blood. Also, they are careful to tell the public what they want to hear. The other three networks could easily beat them, all they have to do is forget the complete ethics and standards of journalism

Can we look at your list?

Is there such a thing as "ethics and standards of journalism" anymore (if, in fact, there ever was)?

Matt

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Nope, I am tired of doing research for everyone at this forum.

Look it up.