Have you ever held a job? When you were told by your employer to do something did you think to yourself "How can this"...."maximize corporate profits"? I know I don't. Management at my company decides what will maximize profits and then they issue orders to me accordingly.

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I am judging the media by their actual content. If you prefer opinion pieces and other side issues so be it.

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So, every time an editor decides to do a story, they ask themselves, "How can this story maximize corporate profits"?

These editors then check the writing of the story to make sure it maximizes corporate profits?

Then why do the majority of all journalists, the CEOs of the corporations and the media corporations themselves, give more political contributions to Democrats?

I only posted ONE opinion piece, from Bernard Goldberg, a media insider for decades. All of the rest of the pieces were statistics on campaign contributions.

Why no reply to the statistics? Is it because the imaginary world in which you live is crumbling?

No reply because the statistics are irrelevant. They have zero to do with the product sold by the people who own our media.

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Editors are employees. They do what they are told by the people who are in charge of generating profits.

• Corporations exist to generate profits.
• Corporations hire people to produce products which can be sold for a profit.
• Those people (employees) do the jobs they are given in the manner they are told to do them in order to produce the product that is to be sold.

These concepts are so simple and so universal I am staggered by your unwillingness to deal with them.

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I give up. I thank you for the civil conversation, but I do not have the energy to do this anymore.

I posted admissions from the BBC that they have a liberal bias, as well as the public editor for the NY times and a few others. I posted the campaign contributions for the CEOs of the media giants, as well as the corporations themselves. Someone else posted the PEW polls.

All of this evidence, yet you are unable to get by the fact that corporations run the media, so you think these corporations should all be biased to the right, since the right generally favors corporations. If this were true, then the campaign contributions would show it, but this is just another fact you will dismiss, since it doesn't fit your world view.

One last piece.........

As highlighted Monday night by FNC's Brit Hume, a new Rasmussen Reports poll discovered that, by about two-to-one or greater, the public recognize a liberal bias over a conservative bias on ABC, CBS, CNN, NBC, NPR as well as in the New York Times and Washington Post. “By a 39 percent to 20 percent margin,” a Friday summary of their survey relayed, “American adults believe that the three major broadcast networks deliver news with a bias in favor of liberals.” The public perceive liberal bias by 33 percent to 16 percent for CNN and 27 percent to 14 percent for NPR. More believe FNC delivers the news with “neither” a bias in favor of liberals or conservatives than see ABC, CBS, CNN or NBC as unbiased: While 25 percent consider the broadcast networks to be without a slant, 32 percent think CNN is “without bias,” but even more, 36 percent, say that about the Fox News Channel.

On the newspaper side, in results released Sunday, Rasmussen learned than Americans see the Washington Post as liberal over conservative by about two-to-one (30 to 16 percent) while it's closer to four-to-one (40 to 11 percent) for the New York Times. “One of the more startling details,” Rasmussen proposed, is that while liberals see all broadcast outlets and most newspapers as having a bias in favor of conservatives, even “25 percent of liberals see a liberal bias at the New York Times while only 17 percent see a conservative bias. This makes the New York Times the only media outlet that liberals are more likely to see as having a liberal bias than a conservative bias.”

Rasmussen pointed out how nearly half of liberals consider the major media outlets to be unbiased and nearly five times as many perceive a conservative over a liberal bias: “Among self-identified liberals, all of the media outlets are believed to have some net bias in favor of conservatives. However, 50% of liberals say that NPR is unbiased. Forty-three percent (43%) say the same about CNN. As for the major television networks, 49% of liberals believe they have a conservative bias. Just 10% of liberals see a liberal bias at ABC, CBS, and NBC.”

The Rasmussen rundown noted that independents see a liberal bias by two-to-one: “Those not affiliated with either major party tend to see a liberal bias everywhere except Fox. Thirty-eight percent (38%) of unaffiliateds see a liberal bias at the major television networks while only 19% see a conservative bias.”

Poll: By 2-to-1, Nets Biased to Left; More Libs See NYTimes as Liberal Than Conservative | NewsBusters.org

Liberals are blinded to the bias because they hear what they want to hear.

The fact that the media pushed gun control is not even seen as bias to the liberals. They are blinded by their partisanship.

Conservatives are almost as bad, 36% of Americans don't see a bias at FOX news. Why is that? Because they are conservatives, obviously. Blinded by their partisanship.

Do you believe FOX is biased?

They obviously are VERY BIASED to the right. Just like the NY Times is obviously biased to the left.

The problem is that the only people who can see both types of bias are people who are not blinded by partisanship.

People like me, who hate both parties and who know that both parties have sold out the American people. There are some exceptions. There are a small number of people who support one of the two major parties who can still see the bias, although I am unsure what makes them different from the masses.

People like you seem to think that the media is biased to the right, because none of them questioned the Iraq war in the beginning. You see, you forget how many CIA assets are in the media, as well as how all the media giants need to protect their precious "White House access."

People like you will never get it. You are a smart person, but you are blinded by partisanship.

If ever you take off your blinders, let me know, as I would like to talk to you again.

http://www.stateofthenewsmedia.org/2...?cat=3&media=1

If profit were really a major motivating factor, heads would have rolled at news like that. Since they didn’t, your overly simplistic view must not be accurate.

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Do you have evidence that the corporations who own our media are not trying to regain that lost market share?
And what is your alternate theory of corporate motivation if it's not profit?

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I'm sure, in their own ways, they are trying to regain market share. That’s not the point. The point is, if profits were really a primary motive, such loses wouldn’t have been tolerated by the executives of these corporations. As for their motives, here’s how Time/Warner puts it:

http://www.timewarner.com/corp/citiz...ort_060519.pdf

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[Emphasis mine] Yes, I often make a habit of using "fancy terms" from my third grade sentence structure lessons.

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You are dead set on ignoring all contemporary yardsticks that say as much. Consumers tell you what they see, I cannot see how you dispute this. You are basically saying they are false and you see no bias, well other than fox, you have made comments regards fox news and their slant have you not? ...hows that work?

I don’t get it. Fox is the only slanted media outlet? There is no myth to be constructed, its not necessary, they tell you themselves what there views are, who they donate too, what thgeir platforms are etc. If 70% of news rooms etc. were con. voters sptters etc. I'd say I would fully expect a slant, and fox as an example is one, so liberal/progressives are immune? Come on.


This argument is going nowhere; I recognize fox as a right of center mechanism. The only issue here is how many there are of such mechanisms on the left. On radio not many, on TV cable etc. they are legion, that’s is a fact tim, there just happen to be more of them ( rep's), up until say the late 50’s this was so, but things shifted as they are wont to.

You’re obfuscating by taking a blind view regards ideology etc. simply throwing out that since big corps own media outlets and big biz are all rep.’s , and big biz are squeeze the folks for all their worth entities, they cannot possibly be allowing leftist views on their media.....ipso there is no lefty media slant. That does not square with the facts.

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It's no notion... Some of the most prominent democrats have been complaining in recent months that the media is biased towards Obama. They include Bill Clinton, former democratic president of the United States, Ed Rendell, PA democratic governor, and Terry Mcualliffe, former chairman of the DNC (that's the Democratic National Committee.)

Ask yourself, if these bright and enlightened democrats can spot bias, then the fat lady has sung for the bias deniers. The earth is round and the media is biased.

There's almost no point for conservatives to even have to prove this anymore when your OWN guys did it for us!

Kramer

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And for all we know they are NOT tolerating it. In fact they are probably fighting the trend tooth and nail like any good corporate executive should.
Well maybe I'm just one of those abounding cynics but that made me laugh and laugh. I never realized Time Warner and Mother Theresa had so much in common. But seriously. The statement you quoted is a marketing tool - not an indication of a corporation's priorities. The purpose of a for-profit corporation is to maximize profit for shareholders and executives. Any thing else is malfeasance plain and simple and the executives that tried any such stunt would be rightly kicked to the curb.

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Yeah, I bet the media really worries about what they report.

Where are you gonna go?

If you buy books, music, magazines, newspaeprs, listen to the radio, or watch t.v., you are making these people money. How can they lose?

One of my favorite "alleged" quotes, is this one.......

I don't like heresay, which is what this quote is, but considering two reporters lost their jobs trying to do the right thing, I give this "alleged" quote a little weight.........

At one point, their lawsuit claims, WTVT general manager David Boylan told them he "wasn't interested" in looking at the story himself and pressured them to follow the company lawyer's directions, adding, "Are you sure this is a hill you're willing to die on?" On another occasion, Boylan allegedly told them, "We paid $3 billion for these television stations. We will decide what the news is. The news is what we tell you it is." Boylan then notified them they would be fired for insubordination within 48 hours and another reporter would make the requested changes.

Call me crazy, but I can see the manager frothing at the mouth while he is saying this. lol

Anyways, just wanted to add this little tidbit. If you really want to see the big picture, you have to step away from all political reporting on candidates and politicians and just look at the issues.

How does the mass media report on the issues? They lean hard left and you know it, but you will not admit it, because that would mean that you are wrong.