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Another Obama lie *EXPOSED* half brother admits Muslim upbringing.

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Malik Obama confirms his half-brother Barack grew up a Muslim
By Israel Insider staff June 13, 2008

Malik holds a photo of Obama and him in Muslim dress, reportedly when the two first met in 1985

Apparently the Obamas of Kenya have been reading those scurrilous emails to which Barack likes to refer, because they have no doubt -- contrary to the claims of the Obama campaign, that the presidential candidate was raised a Moslem. They take that as a given.

As the Jerusalem Post reports, "Barack Obama's half brother Malik said Thursday that if elected his brother will be a good president for the Jewish people, despite his Muslim background. In an interview with Army Radio he expressed a special salutation from the Obamas of Kenya."

The Obama brothers' father, a senior economist for the Kenyan government who studied at Harvard University, died in car crash in 1982. He left six sons and a daughter. All of his children - except Malik -- live in Britain or the United States. Malik and Barack met in 1985 in the US.

"He was best man at my wedding and I was best man at his," said Malik in a 2004 interview with an AP reporter. Their paternal grandfather, Onyango Hussein Obama, was one of the first Muslim converts in Nyangoma-Kogelo, Malik said."

In a remarkable denial issued last November that still stands on the official campaign website, Obama spokesman Robert Gibbs issued a statement explaining that "Senator Obama has never been a Muslim, was not raised as a Muslim, and is a committed Christian."

Apparently Malik Obama, himself a Muslim, had not read the press release.

Melanie Phillips is the most recent commentator to draw attention to the massive body of evidence that leaves no doubt that Barak Hussein Obama was born a Muslim (Islam is patrilineal) and raised a Muslim (so registered in school, acknowledging attending Islamic classes, reported accompanying his step-father to the mosque, and able to recite the Koran in the original Arabic).

Reuven Koret, Aaron Klein and Daniel Pipes have previously pointed to the attempts by Obama and his campaign to conceal the candidate's Muslim background. The well documented evidence draws upon the on-the-ground interviews by researchers in Indonesia and Kenya, published quotations of Obama's childhood friends and his school records, as well as the candidate's own autobiography.

It is not clear whether Barack Obama will now disown his half-brother Malik for acknowledging that shared family background. In any case, some one should notify "Fight the Smear" tout de suite. Perhaps they can get him with the program.
israelinsider: politics: Malik Obama confirms his half-brother Barack grew up a Muslim [updated]



Obama caught!

Nothing worst than someone that will not even admit to their background and must hide the truth.

First we have Obama hiding the truth about Wright.

Then Obama hiding the truth about his wife hatred of white people.

Then Obama hiding his relationship with a known terrorist.

Then Obama himself trying to re-write his books after the truth of his own words were exposed.

Now the truth about his upbringing as a Muslim comes to light after he still lies about being raised a Christian.

Damn he even looks like one of those Nation of Islam idiots.
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Re: Another Obama lie *EXPOSED* half brother admits Muslim upbringing.

Whose side is the brother on anyway?
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Re: Another Obama lie *EXPOSED* half brother admits Muslim upbringing.

Looks more like South African traditional clothes than Muslim.
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Re: Another Obama lie *EXPOSED* half brother admits Muslim upbringing.

Muslim background = Muslim father and Muslim family members. Obama has never denied that. He only denied that HE IS/WAS a Muslim. He was educated in a Muslim school as a small child, are we not going to vote for him for President because of where his mom sent him as a kid living in Indonesia? Non-issue. But do continue with the race baiting.
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Re: Another Obama lie *EXPOSED* half brother admits Muslim upbringing.

Hmmm ... Well, the fact that his grandfather or even father was Muslim does not mean that he was. That seems to be all this article offers.
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Re: Another Obama lie *EXPOSED* half brother admits Muslim upbringing.

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Muslim background = Muslim father and Muslim family members. Obama has never denied that. He only denied that HE IS/WAS a Muslim. He was educated in a Muslim school as a small child, are we not going to vote for him for President because of where his mom sent him as a kid living in Indonesia? Non-issue. But do continue with the race baiting.
Race baiting? Show me where this supposed race baiting is. If you cannot handle the truth maybe you should head back over to your "Right wing myth" thread where you have been handed your ass since the start.
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Re: Another Obama lie *EXPOSED* half brother admits Muslim upbringing.

Obama is the one claiming he was wasn't raised as a Muslim, yet his brother says otherwise.
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Re: Another Obama lie *EXPOSED* half brother admits Muslim upbringing.

TBH, I don't really care. I'm trying to care, but I can't. Sorry.

BHO should have dismissed this Muslim claim from the start by saying so what. I didn't care and I don't care. The reason I don't care is he clearly is an American. And, he clearly loves America. That's all that matters w.r.t. this issue. His love of this country, his views, and his plans for implementation are more important.
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Re: Another Obama lie *EXPOSED* half brother admits Muslim upbringing.

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Obama is the one claiming he was wasn't raised as a Muslim, yet his brother says otherwise.
Where did his brother say he was raised a Muslim?

There was no quote from his half-brother, something that any credible journalist would have undoubtedly been sure to attain considering the importance of such an accusation, saying that Obama was "raised" a Muslim.
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TBH, I don't really care. I'm trying to care, but I can't. Sorry.

BHO should have dismissed this Muslim claim from the start by saying so what. I didn't care and I don't care. The reason I don't care is he clearly is an American. And, he clearly loves America. That's all that matters w.r.t. this issue. His love of this country, his views, and his plans for implementation are more important.
I think it's great to see people with this attitude, but I think you know as well as I that the "so what" responses don't work with the general public. If you don't immediately and emphatically refute an accusation, you're far too often presumed guilty.
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Re: Another Obama lie *EXPOSED* half brother admits Muslim upbringing.

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I think it's great to see people with this attitude, but I think you know as well as I that the "so what" responses don't work with the general public. If you don't immediately and emphatically refute an accusation, you're far too often presumed guilty.
Unfortunately, for most things, you are right. But, I really don't see any point to denying or confirming this. As long as a candidate loves my country, that's a minimum requirement. He has that. It must be me.

[edit] On second thought, I have to think that there are many who just don't care about this. Seriously. Is Joe Lieberman less of a candidate because he's Jewish? Is Rudy less of one because he's RC? Is Jindal less of one because he used to be Hindu? I can't think that significant a number of voters really care. We can't have not moved beyong the WASP mentality? That's so...50s. [/edit]

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Re: Another Obama lie *EXPOSED* half brother admits Muslim upbringing.

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Unfortunately, for most things, you are right. But, I really don't see any point to denying or confirming this. As long as a candidate loves my country, that's a minimum requirement. He has that. It must be me.

[edit] On second thought, I have to think that there are many who just don't care about this. Seriously. Is Joe Lieberman less of a candidate because he's Jewish? Is Rudy less of one because he's RC? Is Jindal less of one because he used to be Hindu? I can't think that significant a number of voters really care. We can't have not moved beyong the WASP mentality? That's so...50s. [/edit]
But I think it would be fair to say that Islam has developed a bit of a stigma that Catholicism, Hinduism and Judaism still hold, but to a considerably lesser extent in this country at this time.

I tried to find a poll to back up my argument, but I could only come up with this...

Black President More Likely Than Mormon or Atheist

and this...

Pollster: Would You Vote For a (Fill in the Blank) As President?

Evidently, it's not easy to find a poll that even asks respondents if they would vote for a Muslim. There are probably two glaring reasons as to why this question was omitted. (1) The surveyors assumed that most people would be more than willing to vote for a Muslim, and also assumed that most people would assume this so, like "Christian," they didn't even bother to include it as a choice. (2) The surveyors assumed that virtually no one would be willing to vote for a Muslim.

Option 3 would be that there just aren't that many Muslims in the United States, but both polls included "Atheist" as a choice, and, as this study indicates (U.S. Religious Affiliation, 2002), there are actually more Muslims in the U.S. than Atheists.

I'm inclined to believe that option #2 is considerably more likely than option #1.
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But I think it would be fair to say that Islam has developed a bit of a stigma that Catholicism, Hinduism and Judaism still hold, but to a considerably lesser extent in this country at this time.

I tried to find a poll to back up my argument, but I could only come up with this...

Black President More Likely Than Mormon or Atheist

and this...

Pollster: Would You Vote For a (Fill in the Blank) As President?

Evidently, it's not easy to find a poll that even asks respondents if they would vote for a Muslim. There are probably two glaring reasons as to why this question was omitted. (1) The surveyors assumed that most people would be more than willing to vote for a Muslim, and also assumed that most people would assume this so, like "Christian," they didn't even bother to include it as a choice. (2) The surveyors assumed that virtually no one would be willing to vote for a Muslim.

Option 3 would be that there just aren't that many Muslims in the United States, but both polls included "Atheist" as a choice, and, as this study indicates (U.S. Religious Affiliation, 2002), there are actually more Muslims in the U.S. than Atheists.

I'm inclined to believe that option #2 is considerably more likely than option #1.
That could be. Yes, the extremist Muslims give ME the eebie jeebies. But, there is clearly none of that extremism evident in BHO. Also, the guy can't win. He was a member of a church with a lunatic, spotlight-whore pastor in a protestant church for 20 years. He's raked over the coals for this. His pastor is a loon, but BHO said those are not his own views. I don't like a lot of what priests say or do either, but I will not change churches.

Now, because he has Muslim relatives, he gets reamed for that.

Because of these two opposing criticisms, I don't care about either, because he clearly can't win with some. So, he writes those off as unwinnable votes and dismisses it as best he can. There may be some that will be susceptible to swing away from him because of it, but there will probably be the same amount of those susceptible to something dear to them to swing toward him for something just as insignificant.

I am hoping this level of criticism washes the overall direction of any swings to a net sum of zero with the susceptible voters who are also swing voters.
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Re: Another Obama lie *EXPOSED* half brother admits Muslim upbringing.

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Muslim background = Muslim father and Muslim family members. Obama has never denied that. He only denied that HE IS/WAS a Muslim. He was educated in a Muslim school as a small child, are we not going to vote for him for President because of where his mom sent him as a kid living in Indonesia? Non-issue. But do continue with the race baiting.
It wasn't even a Muslim school. It was a general public school. That's also part of the long list of Internet/email lies.
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Re: Another Obama lie *EXPOSED* half brother admits Muslim upbringing.

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TBH, I don't really care. I'm trying to care, but I can't. Sorry.

BHO should have dismissed this Muslim claim from the start by saying so what. I didn't care and I don't care. The reason I don't care is he clearly is an American. And, he clearly loves America. That's all that matters w.r.t. this issue. His love of this country, his views, and his plans for implementation are more important.

I guess in your point of view, Obama showed his love for this country by being a 20 year member of an America hating, racist church.
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