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View Poll Results: Does John McCain have Military Leadership experience?
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Re: Right Wing Media Myth #2: John McCain has Military Experience

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Yet, John McCain has military experience. Obama does not.
and John McCain gave information to the enemy while Obama did not.
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I see you have 1,800 posts.

Let me guess, 1,799 of them are on this thread.

lol
another right winger math whiz... confused as to why I might say that?

hint: how many posts are in this thread?
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Re: Right Wing Media Myth #2: John McCain has Military Experience

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SO?

having some military experience does not equate with having sound judgement when it comes to commanding forces...

but I guess to you, that is all that is neccessary... some experience...
okay one more time, *sigh* so I'll elucidate...... COMPARATIVELY you know, between the candidates, the 2 candidates,mccain wins that issue….is that plain enough or what, Christ.
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Re: Right Wing Media Myth #2: John McCain has Military Experience

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and John McCain gave information to the enemy while Obama did not.
It would be rather odd if a eight or ten year old did give any information to the NVA.
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and John McCain gave information to the enemy while Obama did not.
oh wtf.......okay folks we get it.....
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Yes, assuming he also did his residency and met the other requs for his job. I dont beleive medical schools let doctors out if they havent demonstrated their skill. Likewise, I dont beleive the Navy graduates officers unless they have met the performance requirements.
he did... he graduated... he could have been assigned anywhere and done a fine job at it but he was given the elite training slot... jet fighter pilot...

do you really think he would have been assigned that job if his father and grandfather weren't admirals?
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For example?
reread this thread...
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he did... he graduated... he could have been assigned anywhere and done a fine job at it but he was given the elite training slot... jet fighter pilot...

do you really think he would have been assigned that job if his father and grandfather weren't admirals?
I don't know. Neither do you.

The most either of us can do is guess.

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Fwould you want that doctor who finished last in his class to perform a liver transplant on you right out of med school?
No, and neither would anyone else - because no doc just out of medical school is going to be doing surgery.

Fatally flawed analogy there.

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Yet, McCain has military experience. His opponent does not. This is not too big of a deal to me, but I see it's a very big deal to radical libs.

Some people have higher standards than others... I'm in the former group, you are where again?

oh yeah, he has more experience... big deal... just like goober's '72 Pinto with 300,000 miles on it has more experience than the new car on the showroom floor...

yep... you're right...

SO?
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and your hero, John Mccain...

I have not made that claim, I have merely asked for proof of it... which of course, since it isn't true, you have NOT been able to find one...


How about you back up your fallacious claims that McCain ever said “the Shias in Iran are training Al Qaeda to kill the Shias in Iraq”. The fact is, the Iranians did assist in training al Qaeda. I’ve provided references a few times already, you just don’t want to believe them because it hurts your position. You need to change your avatar to a ostrich.

BTW, I’m not much of a McCain fan.
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Gee, the way I read it, his own newspaper is saying that he does, indeed, have military experience.
duhhh... no one is disputing that... what do you say about the descreprancy between what the citation for his medal reads and what actually happened? anything at all?

or is that just the crickets chirping...



I dispute the quality of his experience and whether or not it qualifies him to lead the military during a time of war... you think any experience regardless of what it was, does...

I don't.
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Well, that's a winner, isn't it? You ask for proof of something you claim and know is not true. Then you pat yourself on the back for showing there is no proof. Congrats.

Oh, and McCain has military experience.
Cyd made the claim... have you read the entire thread or are you one of those that starts at the back?
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SO?

having some military experience does not equate with having sound judgement when it comes to commanding forces.
Of course, serving as a Commanding Officer, which was one of McCain's billets, does...
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I would not know, but I do know that if we are really discussing if there was preferential treatment, we'll never know. Do I believe there was, of course, in some way shape or form, does it matter ? Not really. They needed aviators, there was a war ramping up, he might have had a string pulled or him to get him there and so what? He doesn't appear to have had any mishaps in flight school....what are you trying to prove ?
That a guy whose daddy owns the co. gets treated better, well blow me down....no shit. Do I think he may have escaped an iffy crash investigation maybe, sure its possible. Again, so what?

If you are trying to belittle his efforts and what it took to get home half way sane, and that’s were you were going, I say bullshit but it has little to do with his electability or lack of it….and again so, what, They gave Shoop an MOH for sitting in a bunker on Tarawa….I can name a whole laundry list of the 2 highest the DSC and MOH given out for cause not exact individual actions, so friggin what? This has to do with what?


Looking at your other posts, I never ever said that alone was worthy of a voite by itself, go back and read my response to Gracchus.

A POGUE is Marine shorthand for the Armys remf, and yes, I have seen the elephant. So what?

If you cannot see a difference between kerrys situation and McCain’s its because your partisanship won’t allow you to. And here’s a clue, it has ZERO to do with their service in country.

Yeah... there is a big difference between Kerry and Mccain... the so called liberal media repeatedly fried Kerry and the so called liberal media is giving mc cain a pass on several fronts...

you may think that is fair and balanced reporting, but I do not.

McCain was given preferential treatment his entire time in the service with all his foibles glossed over because his daddy and grand daddy were admirals...

again, you think that is ok and again, I do not.
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